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Todd Ireland
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Topic: "Good Time Charlies Got the Blues"Posted: 12 May 2005 at 10:51pm |
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Can anyone confirm if the commercial 45 of Danny O'Keefe's "Good Time Charlie's Got the Blues" is a different mix than the LP version? Edtop40 claims the 45 mix has a much more prominent bass guitar line and the instruments are panned differently than on the LP version.
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Paul Esch
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Posted: 17 August 2005 at 3:25pm |
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Todd--again, excuse me for just now replying to your inquiry, but I
just got through comparing my original 45 of "Good Time Charlie's Got The Blues" (Signpost 70006) to the CD versions I have from Classics (Rhino Handmade 7862) and from Rhino's Have A Nice Day series, and there are differences. The 45 and Have-A-Nice-Day versions have added percussion (bongos, I think) and a harmonica part. The 45 is in mono, and the CD is stereo. The Classics version has a different, wider mix, and no bongos or harmonica. I don't think the bass is that much more prominent on the 45, but the Have-A-Nice-Day stereo mix definitely has a bit louder bass. I don't have a vinyl LP to compare, though. |
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Posted: 18 August 2005 at 3:23pm |
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I've a version on a Reader's Digest compilation that runs about 2:40 that appears to be a different recording from the 45 version. It contains a flute instead of a harmonica. Might that be the version from the 1972 "O'Keefe" LP? The little snippet that I can play from iTunes from the "O'Keefe" album also has a flute and is indicated as running 2:43.
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Todd Ireland
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Posted: 19 August 2005 at 8:12pm |
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Thanks, Paul and David, for weighing in on this. It sure sounds like there's a difference between the 45 and LP versions of "Good Time Charlie's Got the Blues". Just curious, does anyone know if all copies of the 45 were in mono?
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Posted: 13 June 2006 at 8:49am |
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While I personally don't own the 45, the version on the Reader's Digest comp
that davidclark references above is the promo version. One of the jocks I know had a copy of it so he wwas able to confirm the time. |
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Posted: 13 June 2006 at 9:22am |
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The 45 is the same "take" as the LP version, albeit thoroughly remixed with additional production & editing.
The 45 has added congas and edited in 3-times title phrase at the end before the coda to strengthen the hook of the song to make it more palatable for top-40 radio at the time. The coomercial single was mono; the 'Have A Nice Day' version is the single in stereo (I suspect from the stereo/mono promo version). The 'Reader's Digest' version is an alternate take; I don't know when it was recorded or when it originally surfaced. Andy |
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Posted: 13 June 2006 at 1:40pm |
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There's no way for me to be sure until he gets me a dub, but the time on his
promo single is 2:40. I'll be able to time it once he gets it to me. It will be interesting to note any differences between it and the single release. It wouldn't be the first time an oddball version ended up on a Rhino cd. I remember getting stumped by the dj edit of Westbound #9 on the Soul Hits of the 70's series. |
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Posted: 13 June 2006 at 4:40pm |
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Posted: 13 June 2006 at 6:15pm |
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My stereo/mono promo copy runs exactly 2:38 and it has the harmonica instead of the flute.
The dead wax reads ST-SP-25343-1. GM Edited by Gary Mack |
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Posted: 13 June 2006 at 7:44pm |
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Gary: That is the deadwax for my (2:38) promo as well. My (3:02) promo 45 stereo side actually runs (3:00); deadwax is ST-SP-24949-1. Seems that the entire "ease the pain" verse near the end was chopped off. No flute found here, either.
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