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eriejwg 
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 Posted: 14 July 2008 at 6:17am |
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Wanted to revive this thread. The correct 45 version is on
Playlist: The Very Best Of Daryl Hall & John Oates. |
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EdisonLite
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Posted: 18 July 2008 at 7:19pm |
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Hey guys, I am utterly lost in sriv94's explanation of the difference between the wrong and right single edits of "Kiss on My List", although I appreciate his detailed effort in explaining it. Part of the problem may be that he's quoting "LP times the rest of the way" but I'm looking at two 45 versions. Basically, I have the the Rhino (wrong) edit and the "Playlist" (right) edit in my computer and I'm trying to hear the difference but I don't even know the spot to listen for. With someone who has the 45 version and Rhino almost-45 version - can you tell me where exactly there is a wrong guitar part?
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sriv94
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Posted: 18 July 2008 at 7:25pm |
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Sorry for the confusion, Gordon.
If you listen to both the wrong and the right 45 versions at about (3:06), you should hear the difference. |
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EdisonLite
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Posted: 18 July 2008 at 7:33pm |
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Thanks Doug. No prob. Sometimes these things are hard to describe. Now that I know the spot in question is at 3:06 on the single versions, I just listened closely ...
and I still can't hear any difference there :) I usually have good ears for noticing these things, or at least hearing them when the exact spots are pointed out to me. But in this case, I can't. I assume you're talking about it being somewhere on the line "of the best things in life". Maybe if you pinpoint which of those words has a different guitar part underneath, I would know. |
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sriv94
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Posted: 18 July 2008 at 7:40pm |
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Sorry, I screwed up just now. Listen around (2:45). It's in the instrumental break.
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EdisonLite
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Posted: 18 July 2008 at 7:45pm |
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Now you can see why I was confused, if you were confused :)
OK I just listened and at 2:46 I think I hear the difference. It's the lead guitar part - there's 2 pickup notes on the correct edit, and just one pickup note on the Rhino version. Is that right? It's really hard to pinpoint what's going on there, but that's the best I can describe it. |
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sriv94
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Posted: 18 July 2008 at 7:58pm |
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Correct. And the Rhino edit actually has the wrong pickup note (they completely ignored the two pickup notes that were on the single and used the pickup from about (3:21.21) on the LP version to transition the edit).
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EdisonLite
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Posted: 18 July 2008 at 8:09pm |
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Interesting. I listened again. I see what you mean. It is a different take on the note, although it seems to me that both notes have the same pitch, just different performances of the note, and in the proper case, there are two pickup notes before the downbeat and not just one.
Well, I'm glad we got that spelled out - because even with the above comments from months ago, I never really knew exactly what the problem was with the Rhino edit. |
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crapfromthepast
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Posted: 03 January 2014 at 4:22pm |
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So many permutations of this song!
The LP version, running about 4:24 Found on:
Removes the drum machine intro, 32 beats from 2:26-2:42 of LP version (beginning and ending with snare hit on the word "your") and 32 beats from 3:06-3:22 of LP version from the guitar solo (if the first downbeat of the solo is beat number "1", then the edit is at the downbeat at beat number "17"). Appears on exactly one CD (that I know of):
This was Bill Inglot's attempt to replicate the true 45 edit. The sound on the Billboard disc wassuperb, and he came very close, but ultimately there was one misplaced edit. Removes the drum machine intro, 32 beats from 2:26-2:42 of LP version (beginning and ending with snare hit on the word "your") and 32 beats from 3:05-3:21 of LP version from the guitar solo (if the first downbeat of the solo is beat number "1", then the edit is at the snare at beat number "16" - this is the incorrect edit on the Rhino disc, and occurs exactly one beat earlier than on the true 45). Appears on:
Created in 1983 for the Greatest Hits LP; didn't exist in 1981 Removes 32 beats from 2:26-2:42 of LP version (beginning and ending with snare hit on the word "your") and 32 beats from 3:46-4:01 of LP version (also beginning and ending with snare hit on the word "your"). All three of these sound very good:
I don't see any reason for this to exist. As far as I can tell, this first appeared on a 2-CD from Warner Special Products called Love Songs (1988). It ran about 0.7% too fast on this disc. The same version also appears on:
I suspect that this was made by TM Century. It correctly reproduces the 45 edits, but additionally edits out the 32 beats from 3:46-4:01 of the LP version that are edited out in the Rock 'N Soul Part 1 edit. Oops - nice try, guys. Found on:
For the LP version, there are a number of nice-sounding collections, including Starting All Over Again (1997), Legendary (2002) and Ultimate (2004). For the true 45 edit, get Playlist (2006). Edited by crapfromthepast |
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Posted: 03 January 2014 at 6:47pm |
Just guessing, but they probably started with the Rock 'N Soul edit, and then made the additional 45 edit on the guitar solo. |
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