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aaronk 
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 Topic: Hall & Oates - She’s GonePosted: 13 June 2006 at 1:03am |
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I noticed that database doesn't list "45 version" for any CDs containing "She's Gone" by Hall & Oates. Instead, the comment "remixed 45 version" appears several times. What exactly is remixed on these versions? Did they correct the horrific edit on the horn solo in the middle, or is the entire song remixed? I don't own any of these CDs to verify.
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Posted: 13 June 2006 at 8:05am |
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Not sure what's remixed, but I do believe the "horrific edit" wasn't corrected.
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Posted: 13 June 2006 at 9:10am |
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First, the 45 edit does appear on the Rock & Soul comp.
Second, from what i've ever been able to determine, the 45 was never remixed. It is the exact same mix as the LP. The LP master sounds a bit cleaner... Third, i've never heard a bad edit on the horn part. Perhaps Pat will tell us what he hears... |
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Posted: 13 June 2006 at 9:41am |
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Posted: 13 June 2006 at 11:45am |
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Grant, you are correct that the 45 is the same mix as the LP. But there IS an awful edit on the horn solo. It's right before the last verse; they tried to splice two different parts of the horn solo mid-note. The result is, as I stated above, horrific. Now, perhaps some of these "remixed" 45 versions fixed the terrible edit, although Doug claims they do not.
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Posted: 13 June 2006 at 12:17pm |
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The version on my iPod is the Rock 'N' Soul CD version. If we're talking about the same edit at the (2:00) mark, it does sound a bit clumsy.
I do have the T-L SotS: 1976 Take Two CD as well, but it's back at the house so I can't listen to that one right now to see if the edit is as bad (my guess is that it is). Those are the only CDs I have with the edited version. |
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Posted: 13 June 2006 at 12:18pm |
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Seriously, I never, ever noticed any bad edits! However, "remixed" is the wrong word to use here. "Re-edited" seems more appropriate.
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Posted: 13 June 2006 at 12:29pm |
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OK, I cannot find the Time-Life CD I have the edited version on, but I do have the remastered "Rock & Soul" comp on Legacy/RCA. The edit is seamless, and it is the way I remember it on my Atlantic 45.
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Posted: 13 June 2006 at 12:58pm |
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Now, i've just found my old Time-Life CD "1976: Take Two", mastered way back in 1991, and played the 45 edit of "She's Gone". Again, same as the remastered "Rock & Soul" CD, no bad edit! It is seamless.
I think we can lay this one to rest. You have to admit, producer Arif Mardin did some very creative editing! Listen again for yourselves. I'll bet I could prove it again by digging up my old 45, but I don't have time. Edited by Grant |
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Posted: 13 June 2006 at 3:46pm |
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I just listened to Jim's copy of the 45, which identical to the copy my friend has. The edit is much choppier on the 45 than on the CD at the (2:00) mark. It sounds like they smoothed it out for the CD. If you listen to the 45, the horn is mostly in the left channel before the edit, and it gets louder and more centered after the edit. On the Rock & Soul CD version, the horn is still "choppy" sounding, but seems to stay more in the left channel before and after the edit & stay about the same volume.
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