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    Posted: 27 March 2009 at 10:07am
The actual commercial 45 run time of Elton John's "Honky Cat" is 5:10. (Thanks to Jim for once again supplying the timing info. The printed record label time is 5:12.) I'm passing this along because database CD times range from 5:07-5:15.
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Was there a promo edit for Honky Cat?
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Originally posted by Tim Brown Tim Brown wrote:

Was there a promo edit for Honky Cat?


Not that I'm aware of, Tim. Both of my DJ 45s are identical to my stock copy, with "Slave" on the B-sides.
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Same with my DJ copy, it matches the stock with "Slave" on the B side.
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Well, I did see online somewhere that there was a radio edit that was supposedly a minute shorter, but I couldn't find an audio example of it.

Just wanted to know what the edit points might be.

Thanks for all your responses.

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Here's what I found on the Song Facts site....


"Honky Cat" was released July 31, 1972, backed by "Slave". The radio edit runs to 4 minutes 7 seconds; the album version to 5 minutes 13 seconds. In the USA, it reached #10 on the Billboard Chart.

I do know that some radio stations played an edited version, but I didn't know if it was a promo edit from the record company, or sometimes individual radio stations do their own edits.
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Tim, my promo 45 exactly matches up with both John's (Yah Shure) and
Bill Cahill's copies. More than anything else to do with Top 40 hits, my #1
personal interest has long been to discover/locate DJ 45 short versions.
I'd be stunned if some stations didn't make their own in-house edit of it.
If I was in radio as early as 1972, I surely would have....

I've never heard of the "Song Facts" site. But since they are incorrect about
the easily-confirmable US BB peak of the song (it got to #8, not #10), I'm
not giving their alleged (4:07) timing much credibility, either. And both
their wording style and including of "USA" makes me believe that this was
written by either a Euro or an Aussie. Which usually means (unless you're
Abagon!) that your knowledge level of all things US vinyl is far less
extensive.

What are the chances that they could be more "privy" on this subject than
John, Bill & I? I say zero. I will keep on eye out, however, for an *import*
DJ 45 "Honky Cat" issue, and will report back here if I do locate one.
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Thanks, guys. I really appreciate all the feedback I receive on this site.
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Originally posted by jimct jimct wrote:

Tim, my promo 45 exactly matches up with
both John's (Yah Shure) and
Bill Cahill's copies. More than anything else to do with
Top 40 hits, my #1
personal interest has long been to discover/locate DJ 45
short versions.
I'd be stunned if some stations didn't make their own in-
house edit of it.
If I was in radio as early as 1972, I surely would
have....


My promo is the same as both of yours. Granted, it was
almost 42 years ago, but I don't remember playing a short
version on the air either, though it was the perfect
"backtime to news" song in that it had a very long fade
where you could fade out of it anywhere in the last
minute or so of the song...could it be this was what some
were hearing?

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I believe the only Elton John 1970s Top 40 hit to get an official radio edit was "Tiny Dancer". Elton had some long 45s back then and I'm sure some stations did some custom edits, but nothing was ever released as an "official" radio edit.
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