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"I Go Crazy" by Paul Davis clarification |
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Fetta ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 26 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I am a little confused by the entry in the database of "I Got Crazy" by Paul Davis. The database states:
(actual 45 time is (3:54) not (3:37) as stated on the record label; LP length is (3:51)) All the entries have a listed time between 3:37 and 3:52. So my questions are: 1) Is there a difference between the 45 length and the LP length? and if not.... 2) Why are there such huge time differences on the cd's? -Jeff Edited by Fetta |
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Fetta ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 26 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Just following up on this. Anyone have any thoughts?
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edtop40 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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0:03 (3:54 vrs 3:51) isn't really a big difference, no?
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Fetta ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 26 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Actually, the majority of the entries in the database have a time of approx 3:52, however there are several entries with a time listed between 3:37-3:40. So where I am confused is the difference between the 3:37 versions and the 3:52 versions?
Thanks. -Jeff |
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abagon ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 01 March 2008 Location: Japan Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I compared the commercial 45 with the below 2 CDs. (S) (3:37) JCI 3146 1975 - Only Love - 1979 (S) (3:41) Rhino 72446 Listen To The Music: 70's Male Singer/Songwriters They have only an early fade of the 45. --abagon |
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 40 |
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I think I have everything sorted out for "I Go Crazy". I think the 45 is the same as the LP, but slowed down by about 1.2%.
For reference, I turn to the fantastic disc Rock Artifacts Vol. 2 (1991). There are four volumes plus a promo disc, and I can't say enough good things about them. They're produced by Bob Irwin, mastered by Vic Anesini, and have liner notes by Mike Callahan (Both Sides Now website) - this is really the all-star team among all-star teams. The liner notes on Rock Artifacts say: "The single (3:37) was edited from a longer version used on the LP Singer Of Songs Teller Of Tales (3:52) by fading it early. It is presented here in its full-length version from the original un-EQ'd mixdown tape." If the Rock Artifacts Vol. 2 version really is the LP version, then the LP version runs 3:52, and 70.8 BPM throughout (live drummer playing to a click track). The following discs use the same analog transfer as Rock Artifacts Vol. 2:
As for the 45, I disagree with the Rock Artifacts liner notes. I have a needledrop of the 45, and it's the same as the LP but 1.2% slower. Same fade points, same everything, just 1.2% slower. As a result, the 45 version runs 3:54, and 69.9 BPM throughout. I have two CDs that run at the 45 speed (69.9 BPM), but fade a few seconds early:
These discs use the same analog transfer (and early fade) as Billboard Top Hits 1978:
For the LP version, or more properly, LP speed, go with Columbia/Legacy's Rock Artifacts Vol. 2 (1991), or any of the Time-Life differently EQ'd digital clones. All sound great. For the 45 version, or more properly, 45 speed, manually slow down your copy of the LP version by 1.2%. Edited by crapfromthepast |
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