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"If I Cant Have You" - Yvonne Elliman |
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Todd Ireland ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 18 |
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The actual commercial 45 run time of Yvonne Elliman's "If I Can't Have You" is 2:56. (Timing info courtesy of Jim. The printed record label time is 2:57.) I only post this because the song's database CDs (except for the promo "Special Disco Version" appearances) run 2:53-2:58.
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9 |
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The needledrop of the 45 that I have runs at 109.1 BPM throughout (it's a live drummer playing to a click track), and fades from about 2:47 to about 2:57.
The first CD that featured the song is Silver Eagle/Warner Special Products' 2-CD Dancin' The Night Away (1988), where it runs at 109.5 BPM throughout. It sounds like it's from a very high-generation tape source, with very little high end and very little stereo separation. The same analog transfer is used for:
The versions on Saturday Night Fever (both original and 1995 remaster) run 109.3 BPM throughout, and sound surprisingly similar to each other. Not the lowest-generation source tapes. The same analog transfer is used for :
This one is clear - go with Rhino's Billboard Top Hits 1978 (1991), or one of its Time-Life clones. Edited by crapfromthepast |
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Ron S ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 04 July 2018 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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What about the 20th Century Masters? How is the sound on it and does it
match the 45? |
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9 |
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Will gladly take a look at this if someone shoots me a WAV file...
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davidclark ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 17 November 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 15 |
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I have it from Taragon's "The Very Best Of Yvonne Elliman" (1995)
and it sounds good. Haven't compared it to your "best" though. |
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Bill Cahill ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 27 June 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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The click track might what's heard (on EVERY issue of this song) at :16 off to one channel where there is
an audible click. . Also, I don't hear a mix difference on the "Special Disco Version", it sounds like it's just edited to repeat some of the song to make it longer, but is different in that it sounds as if it has less compression/limiting than the 2:56 version. So I suppose you could edit it back to 2:56 to get a less compressed/limited verson of the 2:56 version. But I don't think that gives you any real improvement on the Billboard CD transfer. Edited by Bill Cahill |
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 88 |
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I agree, Bill. The Special Disco Version is just looped/edited. They did the same thing with "Night Fever" on that LP. The other three tracks on the Saturday Night Fever promo do have mix differences (Stayin' Alive, You Should Be Dancing, More Than A Woman).
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AndrewChouffi ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 24 September 2005 Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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To AaronK:
I *believe* there are no MIX differences on "You Should Be Dancing", but it is the longer unedited take of the track that made it to 'Children Of The World' & 'Saturday Night Fever Soundtrack'. The first known appearance of this version (to the best of my knowledge) was the US promo 12" issued to the discos right before the 'Children Of The World' LP dropped. People, please correct me if I'm wrong! Andy Edited by AndrewChouffi |
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 88 |
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Andy, that's probably correct. I knew that it was longer than the LP
version, but you're probably right that the mix is the same. My post above should probably read that those three tracks are not looped like the other two. |
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KentT ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 25 May 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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First CD appearance, by the way is the RSO CD of the
"Saturday Night Fever" soundtrack in 1983-1984. The old 2 CD fatboy case version, later versions were on Polydor. |
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