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"Isnt It a Pity" - George Harrison |
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Todd Ireland ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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In 1970, George Harrison's "Isn't It a Pity" was issued as the flip side of "My Sweet Lord" on the commercial 45 release. Given that "Isn't It a Pity" clocks in at over 7:00 on the 45 and LP, does anyone know if a shorter edit was ever issued on a promo 45? Granted, if any artist was capable of getting such a lengthy single played on Top 40 radio at the time, I reckon it would've been a former Beatle!
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jimct ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Todd, in all my travels/research, I have never either seen or known of any
other U.S. 45 pressing of this song, besides the rare, full-Apple-on-both- sides (to me, indicating a double-A side Apple intent) commercial 45 pressing. Not even a stock copy with a black star on it, which I've understood sometimes indicated it was a copy that Apple sent to radio (I think all the Badfinger hits on Apple had this variation.) Similarly, I never heard anything but the full, 7 min + version on AM radio as a late 1970 current, and I did hear it quite a bit. But Todd, guess what's now on eBay, as of 6-11-13, for two more days? A "My Sweet Lord" test pressing! A seller named "bjimmy9001", states he has run "Vinyl World Records Plus" since 1959. Half of his store's music categories are either Beatles and/or related, indicating to me he would have some level of Beatle collector expertise. He states in this listing that the "country of origin" for the TP is the United Kingdom. While he may be right, personally, I have my doubts, for three reasons: 1) It has the larger, US 45 hole, not the smaller UK one, with no indication that one was once there, and had been removed/pushed through. 2) It has that telltale, unique to circa-1970 US Capitol pressings, small "groove pattern", around the entire outer edge of the paper label, and 3) Although I'm sure the UK did have white label 45 test pressings made, I haven't personally seen any in my travels (not that I've ever really looked for one!) So let's just say, for the sake of argument, that the TP now on eBay *is* of US origin, and the seller is wrong. (Any Beatle experts? Help!) The good news? He's offering 35% off of his previous sale price. The bad news? That means his "Buy It Now" price has dropped down to a paltry $536.25, from his former $825.00 price! (Luckily for us, this merchant claims to have recently taken a "long, hard look at his previous prices", and adjusted them, to reflect "today's real market values.") As you can see, we consumers are now obviously benefitting from this guy's deep recent, price cuts. ($%#@&!) So Todd, I guess it's now or never. But wait! For still over 500 bucks, do we even know what's on the other side of this TP? Nope. Because only one side of the TP is pictured. (BJimmy has clearly been way too busy patting himself on the back, for his recent pricing epiphany!) This merchant also says that, of late, he's now going the extra mile for us buyers, by offering most of his items as "Buy It Now." (Which I *do* much prefer - what a guy!) Anyone else happen to have some spare change around? BJimmy's new, lower prices are still *way* too "big boy table" for me..... Edited by jimct |
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Paul Haney ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 40 |
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In Bruce Spizer's excellent book The Beatles Solo on Apple Records, he shows 12 different variations of the original single on Apple 2995. The initial pressing from the Los Angeles plant is the only one to show a black star on the "My Sweet Lord" side. Bruce states that this was a mistake, as both sides were to be considered the A-side. Thus, the second run of labels from that same plant removed the star.
As for the test pressing...I found some photos of it, including the "Isn't It A Pity" side here... http://collectorsfrenzy.com/details/130847126570/George_Harr ison_Test_Pressing_Vinyl_My_Sweet_Lord_7 ...which shows the time as over 7 minutes. I think it's pretty safe (and cheaper!) to assume that the test pressings are no different than the commercial 45 in this case. Edited by Paul Haney |
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jimct ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Thanks for the enlightenment, Paul! Excellent info! (FYI, I believe the copy I
saw from Paul's link is exactly the same as the alleged "UK pressing" now for sale on eBay. To see Paul's link, leave out the "space typo" Paul made, as to George's last name, "Harr ison". It then works fine. And that Collectors Frenzy TP copy went for just 77 bucks, only 4 months ago, Now that's more like it - BJimmy from eBay, take note!) And I just ordered that Bruce Spizer book from Amazon. In my experiences, buying quality reference books about music is always a good thing! And speaking of that, Paul, when can I expect my new Hot 100 Singles book from RR to arrive? :) Edited by jimct |
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Paul Haney ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 40 |
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Jim, I've just sent Mr. Spizer an e-mail about "Isn't It A Pity"...I'll let you know if I hear back from him. His whole series of books on the Beatles are some of the best I've ever seen. As for the new Top Pop Singles book, it just went to the printer yesterday and we should have it here by the first week of July. Hopefully you'll have it in your hands by mid-July. BTW, that's not my typo on the link above (I tried to fix it, but it just wouldn't take). Anyhow, just take out the space in Harrison and it should work:) Edited by Paul Haney |
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Hykker ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 30 October 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 20 |
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Is the double-green apple pressing of MSL/IAAP all that rare, or is there a rare variation of it? Every original copy I've ever seen was this way. |
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jimct ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Steve, I didn't mean rare in that way. Like you said, every copy of MSL/IIAP
I've ever seen does have the 45 configured that way. I meant rare to the fact that, in most every other instance, one side of commercial Apple 45s always had an "intact" Apple represent the A-side, and a "sliced" Apple for the B- side. Even for The Beatles' 1969 double-sided hit 45, "Come Together/Something", the latter, a #3 hit in its own right, had the "sliced" Apple label. There's nothing criminal about it, I suppose. But as a person who owned plenty of Apple 45s, it just looked a bit unusual to the eye - to have the sliced apple side be a hit, too. I like the "double full Apple" concept here, if that was the label's intent. |
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Paul Haney ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 40 |
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Just heard from Bruce Spizer and he's not aware of any shorter releases for "Isn't It A Pity". He also informs me that he's working on an electronic version of his Beatles Vee-Jay book. Again, I highly recommend all of his books to anyone who's interested in the different Beatles pressings. Those books are the gold standard for this type of research.
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Todd Ireland ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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Thanks for the input, gentlemen. And, Jim, your commentary about the eBay seller's "pricing epiphany" got me laughing out loud! Too funny!
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jimct ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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To put a bow on this one, my commercial 45, confirmed as Apple 2995, with
deadwax of "S45X 47404", has a listed time of (7:10), but an actual time of (7:06). FYI, the three current db CDs that feature the hit version of this song run either (7:06) or (7:07). |
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