Janet Jackson - "The Pleasure Principle"

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   Both sides of my promo 45 claim to be "SIDE A-S", and have a listed (4:19), and actual (4:20) (7" vocal) on them. Deadwax A&M AM 02927-A-S ES1.

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jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MusicFan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Janet Jackson - "The Pleasure Principle" Posted: 01 June 2006 at 1:55am
	Both sides of my promo 45 claim to be "SIDE A-S", and have a listed (4:19), and actual (4:20) (7" vocal) on them. Deadwax A&M AM 02927-A-S ES1.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 June 2006 at 7:57am
	Aha! I knew there had to be a shorter version of this one. Good work, Jim!

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MusicFan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 June 2006 at 9:07am
	I don't have access to my CD library at the moment, but does the 4:20 DJ edit appear on the Janet Jackson import CD Control: The Remixes?

elcoleccionista Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MusicFan Joined: 28 November 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote elcoleccionista Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 June 2006 at 9:20am
	Todd, the 7" vocal (Shep Pettibone remix) is not available on any of the "Control: The Remixes" remix albums. Not the UK, German or the Japan "More Control" CD. In fact, "Pleasure Principle" is only included on the German version, in its "Long Vocal Remix" and "Dub Edit" versions. I have the 7" vocal on the commercial USA 12" single (I much prefer the video version, it preserves some of the "hot" moments of the "Long vocal" mix).

cmmmbase Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MusicFan Joined: 04 May 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote cmmmbase Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 June 2006 at 10:16am
	The UK version of the 1995 greatest hits cd (Design of a decade) has a 4:13 version

elcoleccionista Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MusicFan Joined: 28 November 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote elcoleccionista Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 June 2006 at 11:07am
	That is an edit of the "Control" album version.

Brian W. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MusicFan Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brian W. Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 June 2006 at 12:08pm
	Yes, I have searched high and low and high again, but the 7" Vocal remix of "Pleasure Principle" has never to my knowledge been released on CD. An edit of the LP Version (probably the DJ edit) is indeed on the UK edition of Design of a Decade, as are the 45 versions of Nasty and What Have You Done for Me Lately. The commercial 45 version of Let's Wait Awhile was a remix and is available on the import "Control: The Remixes." I don't know that the exact 45 version of Miss You Much has ever been issued on a full-length CD. Design of a Decade cuts the "buzzing" intro, and the LP version has her speaking over that part, whereas the 45 has just the "buzzing." Of course there are several CD singles from several countries, including the US, that do use the 45 version. I started a "Janet Jackson: The 45 Versions on CD" list about a year ago, then never posted it. I suppose I should finish it. Edited by Brian W.

Brian W. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MusicFan Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brian W. Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 June 2006 at 12:09pm
	BTW, the all cassette single issues I've seen of Pleasure Principle use the 7" Vocal remix. All vinyl 45s I've seen use the full-length album version. Anyone know if there were multiple 45/cassette single releases, as we've been finding for other artists lately?

elcoleccionista Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MusicFan Joined: 28 November 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote elcoleccionista Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 June 2006 at 3:26pm
	[QUOTE=Brian W.] An edit of the LP Version (probably the DJ edit) is indeed on the UK edition of Design of a Decade, as are the 45 versions of Nasty and What Have You Done for Me Lately. The commercial 45 version of Let's Wait Awhile was a remix and is available on the import "Control: The Remixes." QUOTE] Brian, since you mention 45 versions from the "Control" album included on the UK "Design Of A Decade", I'd like to add the single "Control", also included in its original 45 version.

elcoleccionista Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MusicFan Joined: 28 November 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote elcoleccionista Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 June 2006 at 3:56pm
	I'd like to note that there are two different import "Control-The Remixes" releases, with different artwork and track listing. A third remix album was released in Japan called "More Control". Here are the details for each: Control-The Remixes (front artwork from "When I Think Of You" single) (396 924-2) Made and printed in West Germany 1.Control (Video Mix) 2.Nasty (Extended) 3.Nasty (Cool Summer Mix-Part 1) 4.What Have You Done For Me Lately (Extended Mix) 5.When I Think Of You (Extra Beats) 6.When I Think Of You (Dance Remix) 7.Control (Acappella) 8.Let's Wait Awhile (Remix) Control-The Remixes (front photograph taken from the back of "Pleasure Principle" single cover) UK: CDMID 149, Intl: 396 942-2 Disc itself says made in England, back insert states "CD is made in West Germany"... 1.Control (The Video Mix) 2.When I Think Of You (Dance Remix) 3.The Pleasure Principle (Long Vocal Remix) 4.What Have You Done For Me Lately (Extended Mix) 5.Nasty (Cool Summer Mix-Part Two) 6.Let's Wait Awhile (Remix) 7.Nasty (Cool Summer Mix-Part One) 8. The Pleasure Principle (Dub Edit) More Control (front artwork similar to "Control" album cover, different background and lettering) D32Y3148 Made in Japan 1.What Have You Done For Me Lately (Extended Mix) 2.Nasty (Extended Mix) 3.When I Think Of You (Dance Remix) 4.Control (Extended Version) 5.What Have You Done For Me Lately (Dub Version) 6.Nasty (Cool Summer Mix-Part Two) 7.When I Think Of You (Instrumental) 8.Control (Video Mix) 9.Let's Wait Awhile (track 9 is the remix, even though it is not noted) Each of these releses has versions unique to them, that is why I bought all three. I am a big fan of Jam & Lewis : )