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Oddbjorn ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 14 November 2007 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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My 45 of John Fred & His Playboy Band - "Judy In Disguise (With Glasses)", Paula 282, states a run time of 2:47 but actually runs 2:52 and matches most of the run times listed in the db
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PopArchivist ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 June 2018 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 20 |
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Anyone ever hear a fantastic sounding stereo version with great separation for this song? I know I haven't. Maybe on an import somewhere?
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Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD."
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AndrewChouffi ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 24 September 2005 Status: Offline Points: 7 |
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A wider, better sounding mix does exist, but I can't remember what CD (import?) I got it from. I'll let you listen to my mp3 of it. Andy |
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TomDiehl1 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 January 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I used to have an mp3 that was supposedly at
least partially an alternate take and was wide stereo, but I lost it several computer crashes ago and never found it again since. |
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Live in stereo.
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LunarLaugh ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 February 2020 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9 |
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It sounds pretty good to me on ACE's "Chartbusters USA Vol.
2". |
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Hykker ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 30 October 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 12 |
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Somewhere I once read an analysis of the stereo on this song, and it stated that the hit version doesn't exist completely in stereo. The hit version was supposedly pieced together from several takes, some of which only existed in mono. |
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VWestlife ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 02 April 2020 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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I don't think the "very poor stereo separation" description in the database is warranted. While the main part of the song is indeed what sounds like mono with some stereo reverb added, the instrumental break, most of the background vocals, and sitar ending are in full stereo with good separation.
But it definitely sounds like it was pieced together from multiple recordings, especially at 2:10 when the background vocals abruptly switch from stereo to mono. |
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MMathews ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 August 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Just FYI - I checked this some years ago, the mono 45
matches exactly a fold-down of the original (more common) stereo mix. Everything matches exactly, including the reverb. I just re-checked to confirm it. So fold down that mix and you have the mono 45 mix. The alternate mix does not match the 45 but is an interesting alternate way to hear the multi-tracks. MM |
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PopArchivist ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 June 2018 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 20 |
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I disagree. During the 60's much better separation exists in general and this song should be targeted by Eric Records it would be nice to have a stereo mix rather than a mono-poor stereo hyrbid of a mix. |
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VWestlife ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 02 April 2020 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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I know I'm not the one calling the shots, but IMO, notations like "very poor stereo separation" should describe faults with the source tape used or mastering of the CD, not a subjective judgement of the way the original recording was mixed. Especially not when about half the song actually is in full stereo, just like King Harvest's "Dancing in the Moonlight" which switches back and forth between narrow and full stereo.
And as noted above, a truly full stereo version of "Judy in Disguise" would be impossible to create without going back to the original session recordings and completely re-editing and remixing it from the several different takes that were pieced together to form the hit version of the song -- if those recordings still exist in usable condition somewhere. |
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