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    Posted: 24 May 2016 at 10:06pm

I just spun my copy of the US promotion copy 12" radio disc on (Geffen #PRO-A-919) and the actual time is what's indicated on the label (4:17).

It's a longer fade out compared to the LP / 45 version that clocks in at 3:54

That is not the norm because AOR FM radio promo 12" singles are usually cut with the same master source as the 45 or the LP mix. At least that's been my experience with the collection I have.
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Mentioned here:
http://www.top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5962 &KW
and here:
http://www.top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7131 &KW
:)

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Looking at Discogs, it looks like there was one, 7" promo released in the U.S. with the album length version, and one, 12" promo released in the U.S. with the extended version.

I only remember the album version fade from the radio, but it has been forty years (!!!) since I've heard top 40 radio play this fresh.

Does anybody know if most stations went with the album length or the extended length? Alternatively, did top 40 play the album length and AOR play the extended length?
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To NightAire:

My recollection was CHR played the 45/LP length; AOR was serviced with the promo 12" so I suspect that they played that as they were inclined to do so because of the better sound quality of a 12" single-cut pressing.

I seem to recall the TM "Stereo Rock" format playing a specially-edited version of the 12" (but my memory isn't crystal-clear).

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@Andrew:

I recall Stereo Rock merging the split ends and overlapping "Somewheeeeerrrreeee" .... with the drums. I've created a sample to show you.

Sample of Starting Over Near the End
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To Jody:

Yes, it was a crossfade!

But my hazy memory seems to recall the drums starting 2 beats later than your sample... wish I could find an old aircheck!

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Originally posted by AndrewChouffi AndrewChouffi wrote:

To Jody:

Yes, it was a crossfade!

But my hazy memory seems to recall the drums starting 2 beats later than your sample... wish I could find an old aircheck!

Andy


Well it was from memory.....lol. However, I do recall an overlap. I wonder if it was done only because their record was damaged at TM.
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To Jody:

I strongly suspect it was to avoid the measure of silence present on the original record.

Radio hated pregnant silent pauses in the middle of records. Fear of tune-out or fear of the jock talking thinking the record was over.

Of course short pauses (e.g. "Hotel California") were generally fine.

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