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Originally posted by Jody Thornton Jody Thornton wrote:

[QUOTE=aaronk] You bought it on
vinyl?


How's the sound? I have been thinking of getting several
current releases on vinyl, but I really haven't heard much
difference between it and the CD. Besides, I really hate
off-center pressings!
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Originally posted by The Hits Man The Hits Man wrote:

Originally posted by Jody Thornton Jody Thornton wrote:

[QUOTE=aaronk] You bought it on
vinyl?


How's the sound? I have been thinking of getting several
current releases on vinyl, but I really haven't heard much
difference between it and the CD. Besides, I really hate
off-center pressings!


Yes off-centre pressings are a nuisance, but luckily they happen a LOT less on LPs than they ever did on 45s. That was one reason I prefered small-hole 45-rpm discs (ala Virgin and WEA promos). I did get one off-centre LP in 2003 when I bought Coldplay's "Rush of Blood to the Head". It was very audible on "Clocks", and that's not something you want when you pay fifty bucks for an LP - trust me, I'm not rich. But I have since obtained another copy.

LPs from the last fifteen to twenty years have usually been very good. In many cases, LPs are released as double-LPs, with usually only three songs a side. That may sound inconvenient, but you get two real benefits: (a) grooves can be distanced farther apart, akin to 12" singles, and thus you get dynamics that are much more CD-like. And (b), you can place the modulated grooves in the first 2/3 of the side and avoid that end-of-side tracking error that plagues all but the best cartridges.

My hi-fi currently has a Dual 502 (circa 1976) with a Grado Black on it. I am surprised at how open this cart is. Very little sibilance, a wide soundstage, but warm and textured at the same time. CDs to me sound very brittle.

Sure, there are scant pops and clicks, but for the most part the sound is quite "tangible". If the CD fans on this forum gave LPs another try with a good setup, they would be all filing away those shiny discs so they could take on their rightful place as dust collectors (I know that sounds like I'm a bitter analog fan, but think of what most people would have mockingly said to me in the 90s for sticking with my turntable, right?). But really, LPs can sound that astounding.

I am saddened by the sudden lack of 12" singles over the last two years. And R&B LPs are getting harder to come by. I understand that DJs were what kept that market alive, so now with "MP3 Turntables" being useed in the clubs, the need for 12" singles have dwindled. And those were the only means of coming by radio mixes on vinyl in many cases.
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Originally posted by Jody Thornton Jody Thornton wrote:

If the CD fans on this forum gave LPs another try with a good setup, they would be all filing away those shiny discs so they could take on their rightful place as dust collectors.

I'm one of the guys who has a "good" setup. I have a Technics 1200 with an AT440mla. It actually tracks quite well from start to finish, even during the last 1/3 of an LP side. I agree that vinyl can sound quite nice. But so many of us are singles collectors on this board, and 45s don't typically sound nearly as good, mainly because of the groove distortion and sibilance that you mentioned earlier.

I also enjoy Coldplay, and I ended up buying X&Y on both CD and vinyl, just so I could do some comparisons. I couldn't really distinguish between the two, though. They both had about the same tonal quality to my ears.
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I have a Music Hall 5 TT with an AT150mlx cart, so I have a
decent vinyl set-up. I like the cart because the 45s I
play on it sounds excellent, and there is no inner-groove
distortion whatsoever.
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I would love your observations on two things Hits Man:

Is your cart a Music Hall Tracker (ala Goldring?). Some find this cart bright, but I had a Goldring on my Revolver, and I found it great with the older New Wave/Synth Pop releases from the early 80s (eg. Soft Cell, Howard Jones, and the like).

I have heard that wow and flutter readings are higher than on turntables from years ago (around 0.1% non-weighted). Do you find it audible? I would wonder what a sustained piano note would sould like on your Music Hall.

I would assume the 1200 that Aaron uses is an SL-1200 MK2/5, and I know that wow and flutter ratings on his table would be well below 0.03%. Which means if he hears any wavering pitch, it would have to be an off-centre pressing, or a bad master tape - am I right Aaron?
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Yes, I don't ever hear any wow or flutter, except as you note from off-center pressings. And yes, it's the MK2.
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Heads up to Pat: The database lists the subtitle of the reissued Teenage
Dream
as The Complete Collection; it should actually be The
Complete Confection
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