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jimct ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Pat, my commercial 45 for this states (FM Mix) just below the title, and has both a listed and actual time of (3:09). Deadwax is "B-8181-S-45-501218-A-Z4". My promo 45 makes no such "FM Mix" declaration, on either side. Like my stock copy, both promo 45 sides also have a listed and actual side of (3:09). I carefully listened to both 45s, just to make sure they were all the same version. And, despite having the same times, it immediately became very obvious to me that added rhythm guitar overdubs have been generously added, throughout the (FM Mix), that does not appear on either side of my promo 45. In 1983, I was buying every Billboard "Hot 100" new entry during the VERY first week that they entered the chart. For this reason, it is highly unlikely that my stock 45 was a "later, 2nd commercial issue." My promo deadwaxes, despite both sides featuring the same version (no overdubs), have slightly different deadwaxes: "B-8181-S-45-501218-Z-1", with the other side the same, but ending in "Z-3". I do not own her "Cafe Racers" CD, which is the only current CD in the database that you do not describe as featuring a "Dance Mix." Do you own a commercial 45? If you do, does it state (FM Mix)? And if so, does the amount of guitar present on your 45 equate with the "Cafe Racers" CD version, or is it possibly the "no overdubs" version found on my promo 45 instead? Pat, if you'd like me to shoot you out a dub, for any of my various "Invisible Hands" 45 versions, let me know - I'll be glad to assist you in helping to get to the bottom of this case.
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Pat Downey ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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My 45 is also a dj copy with no FM mix label Jim so if you could forwaard me an mp3 of the commercial copy, I can compare it to the Cafe Racer cd version.
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Pat Downey ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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Jim, the version on the "Cafe Racers" cd is the FM mix as found on the commercial 45. Now since I do not have the "Cafe Racers" vinyl LP, we need to determine which version appears on the vinyl LP before I make any 45 version designation in the database.
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edtop40 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6 |
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it looks as if the "fm mix" of this song is also found on the cd below as well...
1995 CD EMI-Capitol Special Markets 57273 Tracks Title Composer Time 1 More Love Robinson 2 Hurricane Carnes, Cuomo 3 Draw of the Cards Carnes, Cuomo, Ellingson ... Composed by: Carnes, Cuomo, Ellingson, Garay 4 Voyeu r Carnes, Ellingson, Hitchings 5 Crazy in the Night (Barking at Airplanes) Carnes 6 Cry Like a Baby Oldham, Penn 7 Does It Make You Remember Carnes, Ellingson 8 Invisible Hands Fairweather, Page 9 You Make My Heart Beat Faster Carnes, Ellingson ... Composed by: Carnes, Ellingson, Fairweather, Page 10 Divi ded Hearts [*] Carnes, Ellingson, Kurasch ... Composed by: Carnes, Ellingson, Kurasch, Weiss 11 I Pretend [*] Fairweather, Page 12 nbs p;Mistaken Identity [*] |
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Pat Downey ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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Ed, I have obtained the vinyl LP "Cafe Racers" and it also features the "FM mix" even though it is not stated anywhere on the jacket or vinyl label that this is the "FM mix". So there is no LP vs commercial 45 distinction to be made.
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Hykker ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 30 October 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 25 |
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Interesting how the "FM mix" is not the one most likely heard on the radio.
I have a promo 12" of this with the "FM mix" on one side and an extended dance mix on the other. I didn't listen closely, but the dance mix just sounds like an extended version of the FM mix. My only 45 is the promo single...I guess I never listened closely to detect the mix differences between it & the FM mix. I don't have the commercial 45. |
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edtop40 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6 |
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the lp version and the fm mix are identical....just another marketing ploy, i guess.....
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abagon ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 01 March 2008 Location: Japan Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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There is the guitar overdub at 2:15-2:25 on the commercial 45 of the "FM mix." (matrix number "B-8181-S-45-501218-A-Z1"
But both sides of the promo don't have the guitar overdub at 2:15-2:25. (matrix number "B-8181-S-45-501218-Z-3-1" and "B-8181-S-45-501218-Z-1" Although I don't have the US "Cafe Racer" LP. "Invisible Hands" on the Japanese "Cafe Racer"LP is the same as the US commercial 45 "FM mix." --abagon |
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Pat Downey ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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Ed, can you check the back of your "Crazy In The Night" cd to see if it states printed and manufactured in Canada? My copy and several others that I have seen in the local used cd stores say that and I am just curious as to whether there is a US pressing of this cd.
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Todd Ireland ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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I have the Crazy in the Night CD, Pat, and my copy states it's printed and manufactured in Canada.
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