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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Loveland Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 September 2019 at 9:40am
Originally posted by thecdguy thecdguy wrote:

Well said, Aaron. I don't see what's so odd about it,
either. At least this way, someone can differentiate
between a version that appeared on a commercial single
and a promo single.

I do have to wonder though, why it seemed to be fairly
common in the 90's for promo versions to be labelled
"Single Version" when they weren't included on the
commercial single. That's where the confusion seems to
come in. I'm sure most people associate "Single
Version" with what was available commercially in
stores to be bought. I sometimes think that the label
of "Single Version" on these particular promos was
just automatically applied because the version was
shorter/edited. Maybe in some cases, they were the
versions that were meant to go on commercial copies,
but maybe someone at the label didn't take the time to
make sure it did. Yes, a promo single is still a
"single", but if it's different from what's on the
commercial single, it should be noted so that the
consumer knows what they're getting. I'm glad sites
like this exist so that we can sort out all the
confusion between the various versions of songs.


You can agree or disagree with me, I'm OK with that. I am not forcing down my "mix labeling system" on anyone. It appears to me that you guys are simply unwilling to entertain someone else's opinion on this very convoluted subject. All I'm saying is you shouldn't shoot down someone else's opinion simply because you disagree.

As I said before, as the 80s came to an end and during the 90s, record companies always seem to include the Album Version on commercial singles, even when a 'single version' was readily available. I'm positive this was done on purpose, just to kill the singles format.

And like I said, a single could be a promotional single or a commercial single. Either way, it's still a SINGLE. It seems to me that you guys consider a promotional single anything but a single.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aaronk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 September 2019 at 11:28am
With all due respect, I feel you are missing the point. This forum has never been about opinions. Haven't you noticed that we rarely (if ever) discuss topics that have to do with opinions? The only thing we care about are FACTS.

I agree with Dan (thecdguy) that it can be confusing for collectors when a reissue compilation labels something "Single Version" when 1) the version appearing on the actual commercial single is different, and 2) there is no corresponding version on any configuration, promo or otherwise, that uses "Single Version" as the name of the mix.

If anything is convoluted, it's the way record companies have chosen to label some of their mixes and versions. For us and for the database, it's simple:

A-side of commercial single = 45 version or single version
version appearing only on a promo = promo single version or DJ edit

If the record label has labeled something "Single Version," you'll notice we use capital letters to designate it.

The bottom line is this: most of us, as collectors, want to have the version that appeared on the A-side of the commercial single, so there needs to be a way to specify what that is even when the label has not given it a version designation (like often happened in the '60s, '70s, and early '80s). We call that the 45 version or single version. "Commercial" is assumed. When talking about something that appears on a promo, we always add "promo" or "DJ" to alert forum members that this is NOT what appears on the commercial single. I don't think I can explain it any better than that.
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