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    Posted: 16 November 2008 at 3:03pm
anyone listenened to the 45 lately? label says "stereo", but sure sounds (E) to me...
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Sounds (E) to me, too. "Storybook Feeling" on the B-side, is (S), yet both sides state "from the LP 'Cyan'."

Aside from the rush job to get "Shambala" out ASAP, was Richard Podolor too pressed for time on a couple of stereo mixes in 1973? I have a Dillards non-LP single on Anthem ("America") he produced that is also (E) on promos and stocks.
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Is it a different mix?

I'm wondering why anyone would combine, then rechannel a perfectly good stereo mix already available.

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Originally posted by AndrewChouffi AndrewChouffi wrote:

Is it a different mix?


It is actually a 45 version.

For comparison, I used the track from Celebrate - The Three Dog Night Story 1965-1975. (The (S) Amazon sample I listened to from The Complete Hit Singles is identical to the (S) track on Celebrate.) The 45 does run a bit slower than the CD.

The key differences:

00:03 The organ riff begins here on the 45. This first riff is not on the CD. The first organ riff on the CD (which is the second riff on the 45) begins at 00:05.45.

00:42-00:44 There is an organ overdub on the 45. But only the last two notes of this overdub segment appear on the CD.

00:47-00:53 There is an organ overdub on the CD that does not appear on the 45.

2:22-2:23.8 On the CD, Cory Wells sings "One more, one more now." These words do not appear on the 45.

Unfortunately, the (E) 45 is mixed in "Dunhill Duophonic," and folding the 45 mix to mono produces an overly wet vocal. Using just one channel or the other produces a satisfactory compromise for making your own mono mix.

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Does a true-mono version exist anywhere on vinyl (such as a promo 45 or promo lp)?

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BTW, the songwriter of "Let Me Serenade You" was John Finley, former lead vocalist of Rhinoceros... anybody heard anymore from this guy at all???
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Originally posted by AndrewChouffi AndrewChouffi wrote:

Does a true-mono version exist anywhere on vinyl (such as a promo 45 or promo lp)?
Andy


I don't have it myself, but most, if not all Dunhill promo 45s from that era were mono/stereo.
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Andrew, I recall playing the stereo/mono promo 45, and there are copies designated as such available through the usual sources. But I only have a stock copy, so I don't know whether the mono DJ 45 side is a dedicated mono mix or simply a fold-down.
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I have the promo and it's a true mono mix on the mono side, and the duophonic on the stereo side

45-06181-M (mono side)
45-016181-RE1 (stereo side)
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