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edtop40 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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my commercial 45 for the little richard song 'lucille'
issued as specialty 598 has re-verb while the cd version on '18 greatest hits (rhino 75899) is dry and does not....do any of the db cd entries contain the song with re-verb? |
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Todd Ireland ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 18 |
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Ed:
I've listened to a commercial 45 of Little Richard's "Lucille" as uploaded on YouTube. To my ears, the reverb on the song sounds like it may match that of one of the following CDs in my library: The Georgia Peach (Specialty 7012) 22 Classic Cuts (UK import - Ace 195) A closer listen suggests that the reverb may be a bit heavier on the Ace CD. I'll submit these for your review, Ed, and will be interested to read your official verdict. |
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edtop40 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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ok, paul...i just gave a listen to both files you sent for
the song 'lucille'....they both have re-verb on them as the rhino disc i have has zero re-verb, and the one with more reverb is the '22 classic cuts' uk import cd.....that is pretty close to the vinyl 45's reverb amount.....so i'm good with that one....thanks!!! |
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Todd Ireland ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 18 |
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No problem, Ed. The best way I can explain the reverb differences on "Lucille" between the two CDs I mentioned is during the song's intro... The drum hits seem to have a longer decay time on the 22 Classic Cuts import disc than on the Georgia Peach CD. I agree that the 45 more exactly matches what's on the 22 Classic Cuts disc.
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8 |
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"Lucille" first appeared on CD on Specialty's Essential Little Richard (1985). It sounds good here. Listen for some nice high end from the light snare hits in the first 20 seconds. I hear what I call a moderate amount of reverb on the track. Listen to the tail of the word "sight" at about 1:02. The same analog transfer is used on:
There was a new analog transfer on Specialty's 3-CD The Specialty Sessions (1989). This version has lots of reverb - far more than any of the other analog transfer listed here (listen to the word "sight" at 1:02). The same analog transfer is used on:
My recommendations I don't have the original vinyl, so I don't know what the actual speed of the track should be, or how much reverb it should have. I can generalize: For no reverb, I recommend MFSL's Here's Little Richard + Little Richard reissue (2006). For a small amount of reverb, I recommend Rhino's 18 Greatest Hits (1985). For a large amount of reverb, I recommend Specialty's 3-CD The Specialty Sessions (1989). |
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8 |
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I found a dub of the Specialty 45 on YouTube. I don't know if it's the original pressing or a rerelease.
The reverb of the 45 seems to match the large amount of reverb on Specialty's 3-CD The Specialty Sessions (1989). I welcome second opinions! |
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8 |
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The reverb on the Music Prof video matches the Specialty Sessions set nicely.
So we can say with confidence that the true 45 version is on Specialty's 3-CD The Specialty Sessions (1989), including the proper amount of reverb. Thanks for the help! (Are we sure that the Music Prof video is actually from vinyl? It sounds absurdly clean. I know the Music Prof has an excellent reputation and does great work, but it couldn't hurt to ask.) |
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davidclark ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 17 November 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 14 |
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Yes, the MusicProf has been giving us many 45-only versions that we didn't
have on CD, but he only "recently" started dubbing actual 45s. And, he usually says so when it's a 45 dub. With the Little Richard coming from 4 years ago and no 45 dub indication, his is more likely to be a CD rip. Check out these, one being a 78 dub (so they say...). They look like they'd be originals. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNZcLABDjX4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP4Ux5jrXmU |
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8 |
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Thanks, Dave!
Those two versions, clearly taken from records, also match Specialty's 3-CD The Specialty Sessions (1989), including the proper amount of reverb. There are speed differences, though, which we'd expect from old records. |
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