Little River Band - Cool Change

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   The 45 runs 4:06.

The first CD to feature the 45 version was Priority's Seventies Greatest Rock Hits Vol. 12 #1 Groups (1991).  It's a little loud, and clips a bit in the last 30 seconds, but otherwise sounds pretty good.  This was part of a 15-CD set released in 1991 and 1992.  I noticed a few hard-to-find 45 versions in this series, like "Come Sail Away".  Sound is usually a little on the loud side, but otherwise, I'm warming up to these discs.

Later discs that feature the 45 version do not fare as well.  There's a new analog transfer on Time-Life's otherwise-excellent Sounds Of The Eighties Vol. 22 1980-1983 (1997).  The left/right channels are swapped, and there's a persistent metallic ringing quality to the sound throughout the song.  I've only encountered ringing like this on one other track ("Knock On Wood" on Pure Disco), but it renders the song unlistenable.  Sadly, there are two other discs that use the same analog transfer:Madacy's Rock On 1979 Heart Of The Night (1998; digitally exactly 1 dB louder)
Time-Life's 2-CD Classic Soft Rock Vol. 1 Summer Breeze (2006; differently EQ'd digital clone that dials back some of the ringing)Avoid all three of the above.

The LP version runs around 5:12.

I don't have Rhino's Reminiscing set, but I'd bet good money that it sounds very nice.  It runs 5:13, with a longer tail on the fade than anything else out there.

My budget-conscious go-to disc for LRB tracks, 10 Best Series (1990), only runs 5:04 and severely truncates the fade.  Sounds nice, otherwise.

The 18-track Greatest Hits (2000) also runs out to 5:07, but is mastered pretty harshly with lots of compression/limiting.  Time-Life's 2-CD Singers And Songwriters Vol. 7 1980-1982 (2000) is digitally exactly 2.018 dB quieter.  Avoid both of these.

Madacy's Rock On 1980 (1996) runs out to 5:10.  I can't figure out what other mastering this is based on, but it sounds pretty good, and it runs longer than all the others I listed.

Finally, Cema's 2-CD Cool Rock (1995) also runs out to 5:13.  It has no noise reduction, a slightly trebly EQ, and very nice levels.  (Could this be based on Rhino's Reminiscing?)  In any case, my choice for the LP version is Cema's Cool Rock (1995), for the overall nice sound quality and the extra-long tail on the fade.

Here's how to create the 45 edit from the LP version on Cool Rock:

Segment 1:

Extends from 0:00.0 to 0:53.4 of both the LP version and the 45 edit.

Ends on a piano chord that starts the line "I know that it's time".

Remove the 16 beats from 0:53.4 to 1:08.6 of the LP version.

Segment 2:

Extends from 1:08.6 to 3:40.5 of the LP version.

Extends from 0:53.4 to 3:25.3 of the 45 edit.

Ends on a downbeat that starts the background singers' word "time".

Remove the 32 beats from 3:40.5 to 4:09.5 of the LP version.

Segment 3:

Extends from 4:09.5 to 4:50.9 of the LP version.

Extends from 3:25.3 to 4:06.7 of the 45 edit.

Fade:

Extends 6 beats (hastens the existing fade).

Extends from 4:45.5 to 4:50.9 of the LP version.

Extends from 4:01.3 to 4:06.7 of the 45 edit.

Your mixdown will run 4:06.7, with edits at 0:53.4 and 3:25.3.

The timings also work for 10 Best Series, to within about 0.2 seconds, if you have that as your source.

Edited by crapfromthepast

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crapfromthepast Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9	Post Options Post Reply Quote crapfromthepast Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Little River Band - Cool Change Posted: 30 March 2014 at 3:24pm
	The 45 runs 4:06. The first CD to feature the 45 version was Priority's Seventies Greatest Rock Hits Vol. 12 #1 Groups (1991). It's a little loud, and clips a bit in the last 30 seconds, but otherwise sounds pretty good. This was part of a 15-CD set released in 1991 and 1992. I noticed a few hard-to-find 45 versions in this series, like "Come Sail Away". Sound is usually a little on the loud side, but otherwise, I'm warming up to these discs. Later discs that feature the 45 version do not fare as well. There's a new analog transfer on Time-Life's otherwise-excellent Sounds Of The Eighties Vol. 22 1980-1983 (1997). The left/right channels are swapped, and there's a persistent metallic ringing quality to the sound throughout the song. I've only encountered ringing like this on one other track ("Knock On Wood" on Pure Disco), but it renders the song unlistenable. Sadly, there are two other discs that use the same analog transfer: Madacy's Rock On 1979 Heart Of The Night (1998; digitally exactly 1 dB louder) Time-Life's 2-CD Classic Soft Rock Vol. 1 Summer Breeze (2006; differently EQ'd digital clone that dials back some of the ringing) Avoid all three of the above. The LP version runs around 5:12. I don't have Rhino's Reminiscing set, but I'd bet good money that it sounds very nice. It runs 5:13, with a longer tail on the fade than anything else out there. My budget-conscious go-to disc for LRB tracks, 10 Best Series (1990), only runs 5:04 and severely truncates the fade. Sounds nice, otherwise. The 12-track Greatest Hits (copyright 1982) does a little better, running out to 5:07, and also sounds nice. The 18-track Greatest Hits (2000) also runs out to 5:07, but is mastered pretty harshly with lots of compression/limiting. Time-Life's 2-CD Singers And Songwriters Vol. 7 1980-1982 (2000) is digitally exactly 2.018 dB quieter. Avoid both of these. Madacy's Rock On 1980 (1996) runs out to 5:10. I can't figure out what other mastering this is based on, but it sounds pretty good, and it runs longer than all the others I listed. Finally, Cema's 2-CD Cool Rock (1995) also runs out to 5:13. It has no noise reduction, a slightly trebly EQ, and very nice levels. (Could this be based on Rhino's Reminiscing?) In any case, my choice for the LP version is *Cema's Cool Rock* (1995)*, for the overall nice sound quality and the extra-long tail on the fade. Here's how to create the 45 edit from the LP version on Cool Rock: Segment 1: Extends from 0:00.0 to 0:53.4 of both the LP version and the 45 edit. Ends on a piano chord that starts the line "I know that it's time". Remove the 16 beats from 0:53.4 to 1:08.6 of the LP version. Segment 2: Extends from 1:08.6 to 3:40.5 of the LP version. Extends from 0:53.4 to 3:25.3 of the 45 edit. Ends on a downbeat that starts the background singers' word "time". Remove the 32 beats from 3:40.5 to 4:09.5 of the LP version. Segment 3: Extends from 4:09.5 to 4:50.9 of the LP version. Extends from 3:25.3 to 4:06.7 of the 45 edit. Fade: Extends 6 beats (hastens the existing fade). Extends from 4:45.5 to 4:50.9 of the LP version. Extends from 4:01.3 to 4:06.7 of the 45 edit. Your mixdown will run 4:06.7, with edits at 0:53.4 and 3:25.3. The timings also work for 10 Best Series*, to within about 0.2 seconds, if you have that as your source. Edited by crapfromthepast
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eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 41	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 31 March 2014 at 1:18pm
	I went back and used a 2010 remaster of "First Under The Wire" to create the 45 version. Quality seems very nice.

Bondy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 18 February 2012 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bondy Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 April 2014 at 5:09am
	I have the original 12 cuts LRB Greatest Hits. Could you guys tell me which CDs have the best sound, that are not brickwalled. Thanks

crapfromthepast Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9	Post Options Post Reply Quote crapfromthepast Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 April 2014 at 7:45am
	The 12-track GH is well-regarded, so you're fine with the one you have. I preferred the 10-track 10 Best Series by a hair. It sounded to me like lower-generation source tapes; the 12-track GH was assembled in the analog era. I don't have Rhino's Reminiscing set, but I'm willing to bet that it sounds outstanding, based on my experience with the other Rhino multi-disc single-artist compilations from that era. I haven't shelled out the $$ for this one because my LRB needs didn't go much beyond the tracks that were on the 12-track GH.
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Bondy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 18 February 2012 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bondy Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 April 2014 at 8:41am
	Has anyone ever done 45 edits of Happy Anniversary and Cool Change from the best sounding CDs.

sriv94 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote sriv94 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 April 2014 at 11:00am
	It would appear based on this thread that a couple of people have for "Cool Change." For "Happy Anniversary," you're on your own (although unless I'm missing something you could fade the Have A Nice Decade box set version to replicate the 45).
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crapfromthepast Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9	Post Options Post Reply Quote crapfromthepast Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 August 2015 at 8:28pm
	I found a copy of Rhino's 2-CD Reminiscing The Twentieth Anniversary Collection (1994). It's SPECTACULAR. The sound quality is even better than I expected, especially for the older tracks. I tend not to rave much over single-artist collections, but this one is most definitely worth hunting down. Reminiscing has the LP version of "Cool Change". To create the 45 edit, keep 0:00.0-0:53.6, 1:08.8-3:40.6 and 4:09.6-4:51.1 of Reminiscing, then fade the 6 beats from 4.01.5-4.06.9. Oh, and I discovered that the version on Cool Rock is digitally identical to Reminiscing! Neat! Edited by crapfromthepast
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