"Love and Happiness" - Al Green

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   A 1972 classic that was not released as a single in the US until 1977, according to Discogs the 45 runs (3:58), a far cry from the (5:04) full version.

So the usual question--can the 45 be extracted from the LP (either via edit or by fading way early)?

Thx!  I'll hang up and listen for my answer.  Long-time caller, first-time listener.  :)

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sriv94 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote sriv94 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: "Love and Happiness" - Al Green Posted: 12 May 2016 at 7:22pm
	A 1972 classic that was not released as a single in the US until 1977, according to Discogs the 45 runs (3:58), a far cry from the (5:04) full version. So the usual question--can the 45 be extracted from the LP (either via edit or by fading way early)? Thx! I'll hang up and listen for my answer. Long-time caller, first-time listener. :) Edited by sriv94
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jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 May 2016 at 2:32pm
	Doug, from my radio and collector experiences over the years, this particular song has been both requested/brought to my attention far more often than the typical #104 Bubbling Under track has, so there's no question in my mind that a bit of a cult following for this track had occurred somewhere along the line. Some years back, I was able to locate a Hi 2324 long/short promo 45 for it. Both sides of my copy were clearly played on-air, and it is far from a pristine copy, but the good news is that neither side skipped during today's dubbing/MBF send to you, which means you can both determine where the edits are and apply them against your full version on CD. I trust you'll follow up here with your findings. And while I still have my promo 45 pulled, I might as well go ahead and document its full details here: -Al Green - Love And Happiness (Hi 2324 mono short side promo 45; listed time 3:20; actual time 3:24; handwritten deadwax of "HI-2952 X"). -Al Green - Love And Happiness (Hi 2324 stereo long side promo 45; listed time 3:58; actual time 4:01; handwritten deadwax of "ZHI-2952").

sriv94 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote sriv94 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 May 2016 at 6:27pm
	Well, it took me long enough (sorry, had a few big non-music related projects that took more of my time than I expected). With some assistance from John G., I was able to figure out the edits. The long edit removes the (2:37.62)-(3:41.55) section of the full-length version. From the long edit, remove the section from (2:30.38) to (3:07.45) to create the short edit. It didn't sound to me like there was any significant mono (short)/stereo (long) difference but your mileage may vary (that's not a strength of mine). John did warn me that most of the CD versions have noise reduction at the beginning and the end, and that the Right Stuff Greatest Hits version fades about 5 seconds early. While the edits don't affect that aspect, if you want it perfect you probably need to seek out a pristine LP copy. Edited by sriv94
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Paul C Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 23 October 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 19	Post Options Post Reply Quote Paul C Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 December 2018 at 2:41pm
	The 45 version of "Love And Happiness" has finally been released on the 3-CD Al Green set, The Hi Records Singles Collection. Hi Records 45s continued to be mono until at least 1975 and, although the title suggests these are all the single mixes, of the Top 40 hits only "Tired Of Being Alone", "Let's Stay Together", and "Full Of Fire" are mono. I do really like the sound quality of this set. Edited by Paul C

Santi Paradoa Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 17 February 2009 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 27	Post Options Post Reply Quote Santi Paradoa Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 January 2019 at 7:07pm
	As Paul mentioned a month ago the single edit appears on this recent three disc set (run time is 4:01).
	Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida