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Todd Ireland ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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In the database, some CD appearances of the Beatles "Love Me Do" contain the comment: "Ringo Starr on drums but this was not the U.S. hit version". Wasn't this actually the U.K. single version, or at least on early U.K. 45 pressings?
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KentT ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 25 May 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Yes, UK first pressings featured Ringo on drums. Second pressings on have the session drummer as did the US hit.
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Todd Ireland ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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Thanks for the confirmation, KentT. In light of this information, perhaps the database CDs containing Ringo Starr on drums could be slightly revised to read something like: "early U.K. 45 version with Ringo Starr on drums".
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Paul C ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 23 October 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 10 |
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The discussion in the Gavin Report thread about the
Capitol of Canada "All My Loving" single got me thinking about the song "Love Me Do". For the first three weeks that "Love Me Do" charted on the Hot 100, starting on April 11, 1964, the label was shown as Capitol Of Canada 72076, which had first been issued on February 18, 1963 and then reissued in January 1964 with the same catalogue number. (Two other Capitol of Canada 45s, "All My Loving" and "Roll Over Beethoven" were also on the Hot 100 that week.) After getting as high as #67 on April 25, the Hot 100 showed the label the following week (when the song shot up to #32) as "Tollie 9008/Capitol Of Canada 72076". Starting the following week, the label would be shown only as "Tollie 9008". The reason I'm bring all this up is that Capitol of Canada 72076 and Tollie 9008 are different versions of the song. Capitol of Canada 72076 is the Ringo on drums version of the song (mastered directly from a UK Parlophone 45, as would be the next three Canadian Beatles singles). Tollie 9008 is the Andy White on drums version. I believe that the Ringo on drums version was not issued in the US until the March 1980 Rarities album, some sixteen years after this version had spent three weeks on the Hot 100! The database states that early UK 45s were the Ringo on drums version. It is my understanding that all UK 45s were the Ringo version until reissues many years later, when the Andy White version started to appear on UK 45s because no tape of the Ringo version has survived. I'm not aware of any evidence that a tape of the Ringo version ever left the UK. Edited by Paul C |
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mjb50 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 28 April 2021 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 36 |
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Let me see if got this right:
In early 1963, Canada got the 1962 UK single version with Ringo drumming. This was on Capitol and was a dub of the UK 45. This was reissued in early 1964, and some copies were exported to the U.S, generating sales & airplay. Then, as this import single was climbing the Hot 100 and entering the top 40, it was replaced by the Introducing... The Beatles 1st-edition album version with Andy White drumming. This 2nd 45 was on Tollie, a U.S. label. This is the version that was used on the Please Please Me album. Is that correct? IMHO this means both versions were the "hit" in the U.S., but most people would have heard the 2nd version, and over time, the Ringo version faded from memory. Edited by mjb50 |
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PopArchivist ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 June 2018 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 26 |
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I always thought the White 45 was the hit.
Ron would love your analysis for this massive Beatles hit if you could do it. Anthology 1 Track 22 is the original recording from June 1962. Anthology 1 Track 24 is the EMI session with drummer Andy White in place of Ringo and is on the Please Please Me UK album and on the 1964 Tollie single and the Beatles US albums Introducing The Beatles and The Early Beatles. The Second version with Ringo was on the original Paralophone single. Edited by PopArchivist |
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mjb50 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 28 April 2021 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 36 |
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I only know what I've read. My main reference for who did what, and what record it's on, is The Usenet Guide to Beatles Recording Variations: version 2 (HTML) or version 3 (PDF). This is an invaluable resource for sorting out the many versions of Beatles songs.
Here's what it says about "Love Me Do":
(It seems to be an error in this guide that "Introducing first issue" is sometimes said to be from 1963. It was planned for 1963 but actually came out January 10th, 1964, per the Wikipedia article, and was quickly replaced by the 2nd issue with no "Love Me Do" on February 10th. Just now, I've reported this to the maintainer of the guide.) Edited by mjb50 |
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 43 |
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That's a lot of detail!
I think it's consistent with the way I've always thought about "Love Me Do": 1st of 3 recorded versions: Pete Best on drums, unreleased until 1995, found on Anthology 1 2nd of 3 recorded versions: Ringo Starr on drums, UK 45 version, found on Mono Masters Vol. 1 3rd of 3 recorded versions: Andy White on drums: LP version mono mix, US 45 version, found on Please Please Me 2009 mono |
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LunarLaugh ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 February 2020 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11 |
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Given the choice between the two, I usually go for the Andy
White on drums with Ringo on tambourine version. One could argue that the White version is what went number one in America in the midst of the British Invasion (note: Love Me Do was only a modest top 20 hit upon initial release in the UK). I've heard both played on oldies format radio but most stations seemed to favor the White recording. The compilers of The Beatles 1 also favored the Andy White recording (again, most likely because that's the version that was on the US 45 when it was number 1 in the US). |
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TallPaulInKy ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 21 September 2007 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Besides the Andy White version being the "hit version" in the United States, I honestly think it is the best version. The addition of the tambourine on the record makes it for me. |
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