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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MMathews Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 September 2020 at 7:19pm
From the description above of the "wrong" mono mix it
sounds like it may be a fold-down of the stereo. This
may have been done due to a lost 45 master for it.

But I can't confirm that without comparing them.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote crapfromthepast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 September 2020 at 2:41pm
Mark M's golden ears confirmed that the mono versions on CD (or at least the discs I listed above) are fold-downs of the stereo mix, and are not the true 45 mix.
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Originally posted by Brian W. Brian W. wrote:

I know "Anthology" was mastered by
Bill Inglot, who almost always uses the correct singles
masters.

Bill Inglot was actually not involved with the 1995
Marvin Gaye Anthology. He was involved with a couple of
the volumes in that Motown Masters series (The
Supremes, for certain) and he also handled the fabulous
Hitsville, USA box set. However, Gavin Lurssen at the
Mastering Lab handled the Marvin Gaye Anthology set.
Had Bill been involved, it's possible that we might not
have an issue with the wrong mono mix being used on CD.
The shuffling of the guard at Motown/Polygram/Universal
in the late 90s really seemed to throw a wrench in the
gears of some ongoing tape research and certain notes
on what tapes were which seemed to have either gone out
the window or they figured that whatever had already
been done in the master series was correct so they
never bothered to double check.

For my ears, the best available CD source you can find
by legitimate means would be Rhino's Billboard Top R&B
Hits 1969 which was released in 1989. Not only is the
fidelity of the track noticeably better than the other
discs I have featuring the song, but the fade out is
not ducked early in mastering. This is to say that Bill
Inglot and Ken Perry allowed the full fade of this
stereo mix to run out. Listen in headphones and you can
hear the tape leader going over the playback head
before the tape hiss subsides. This feature is faded
out on all other CD appearances that I have this song
on but the Rhino disc demonstrates quite clearly that
the stereo mix was faded a fraction sooner than the
mono mix that appears on the 45.

For completeness and comparisons sake, the other CDs I
have this track on are as follows:

    Marvin Gaye - Compact Command Performances: 15 Greatest
    Hits (a bit duller sounding and fades a very small hair
    earlier compared to the Rhino disc).


    Marvin Gaye - 20th Century Masters: The Best of Volume
    1 The 60s (a good transfer, mastering a little on the
    louder side, fades earlier than the Compact Command
    Performances disc)

    Marvin Gaye - GOLD [2005 reissue of 2001 "Very Best
    of"] (seemingly the same transfer as 20th Century
    Masters but faded a little more earlier).

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PopArchivist Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 July 2022 at 2:48pm
Guess the true 45 still has not made CD. Duly noted.
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I just want to take a minute to thank everyone for the
information on this song. I tracked down an original mono
45 and I can hear the difference.
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