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MMathews ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 August 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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From the description above of the "wrong" mono mix it
sounds like it may be a fold-down of the stereo. This may have been done due to a lost 45 master for it. But I can't confirm that without comparing them. MM |
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 55 |
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Mark M's golden ears confirmed that the mono versions on CD (or at least the discs I listed above) are fold-downs of the stereo mix, and are not the true 45 mix.
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LunarLaugh ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 February 2020 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11 |
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Bill Inglot was actually not involved with the 1995 Marvin Gaye Anthology. He was involved with a couple of the volumes in that Motown Masters series (The Supremes, for certain) and he also handled the fabulous Hitsville, USA box set. However, Gavin Lurssen at the Mastering Lab handled the Marvin Gaye Anthology set. Had Bill been involved, it's possible that we might not have an issue with the wrong mono mix being used on CD. The shuffling of the guard at Motown/Polygram/Universal in the late 90s really seemed to throw a wrench in the gears of some ongoing tape research and certain notes on what tapes were which seemed to have either gone out the window or they figured that whatever had already been done in the master series was correct so they never bothered to double check. For my ears, the best available CD source you can find by legitimate means would be Rhino's Billboard Top R&B Hits 1969 which was released in 1989. Not only is the fidelity of the track noticeably better than the other discs I have featuring the song, but the fade out is not ducked early in mastering. This is to say that Bill Inglot and Ken Perry allowed the full fade of this stereo mix to run out. Listen in headphones and you can hear the tape leader going over the playback head before the tape hiss subsides. This feature is faded out on all other CD appearances that I have this song on but the Rhino disc demonstrates quite clearly that the stereo mix was faded a fraction sooner than the mono mix that appears on the 45. For completeness and comparisons sake, the other CDs I have this track on are as follows: Marvin Gaye - Compact Command Performances: 15 Greatest Hits (a bit duller sounding and fades a very small hair earlier compared to the Rhino disc). Marvin Gaye - 20th Century Masters: The Best of Volume 1 The 60s (a good transfer, mastering a little on the louder side, fades earlier than the Compact Command Performances disc) Marvin Gaye - GOLD [2005 reissue of 2001 "Very Best of"] (seemingly the same transfer as 20th Century Masters but faded a little more earlier). |
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PopArchivist ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 June 2018 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 27 |
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Guess the true 45 still has not made CD. Duly noted.
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Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD."
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Kevin711 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 15 August 2019 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I just want to take a minute to thank everyone for the
information on this song. I tracked down an original mono 45 and I can hear the difference. |
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