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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aaronk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 August 2022 at 7:53am
Originally posted by promojunkie promojunkie wrote:

From what I am gathering from the info provided, you can't just cut off the intro :26 of the 3:43 version (The 45 I have in my possession). It's a different mix/edit?   

Actually, that's exactly what you'd do to create the shorter version, but you'd only remove 0:23. You just need to be sure you also include the ending "ding" from another CD source, given that the Hot Remix compilation fades too soon.

In summary:

- The 3:44 stock 45 version uses the same mix as the "Vocal/Edit Of Remix" found on the 12" but has a different ending than the 12" version.
- The 3:19 promo 45 (and apparently on some stock copies) is an edit of the 3:44 stock 45 version.
- The longer "Vocal/Extended Remix" version on the 12" is a similar remix but has slightly different echo effects in places.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aaronk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 August 2022 at 7:57am
Originally posted by cmmmbase cmmmbase wrote:

My Stock 45 does have a listed time of 3:46, but it plays 3:15. The is the source of the dub Aaron was referring to. The 45 itself states "edit of remixed version from LP Headlines" the run off has STE 69525A 4 R16234-A+ 13563

The dub I have from you stops before the ending "ding." Is your 45 truly missing this at the end, or does the dub cut off too soon? Where your file ends, my promo 45 has about another second of silence and then the ding.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote promojunkie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 August 2022 at 8:39am
Ok, great. thank you all for the info. This solves the
mystery. Another case of an incorrect label on particular
pressings.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cmmmbase Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 August 2022 at 11:05am
Aaron - the 45 does in fact have the ding! Looks like a re-
dub is needed. I must have only played the 45 when dubbing
it - don't recall the ding from when I heard it on the
radio (some 36 years ago...)
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Heh, I doubt very many radio stations would have played the entire fadeout just to get to that ding. It's more of a treat for the fans who bought the single. Same goes for the bubbly intro.

I do remember hearing at least the beginnings of fadeouts on the pop radio in the '80s, but all the way to near-silence, never.

I'm always amazed at how you guys remember precisely what edits you heard back then, even their durations. I guess I have a few songs like that in my mental catalog, but these days, I have to double-check everything. I'd like to think it's all still in there somewhere, and it's just the recall that's faulty.

Anyway it seems from what you guys have posted, the matrix cut numbers 1 or 2 (after the "A") are 3:43, and 3 & 4 are shortened. My guess is the record company realized that radio didn't like that intro (maybe partly because it sounds a bit like a bong), so they chopped it off, and didn't get new labels made for it.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote EternalStatic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 October 2022 at 8:16am
Just a bump of appreciation for this thread. I have the U.S. single version taken from Hot Remix, and I did not realize that it ran short because back in the day, I had verified it to the Youtube rip that is also
posted above, which also runs short.

FYI, if you have the UK 45 version (aka '7" Pop Edit') from the Ultimate Collection, it also works pretty well as a source for the final "ding" that you need to paste on the end of the Hot Remix version to
get the full U.S. 45. Although it is a different mix, the ding is very clean and is a pretty good match the tonality of the Hot Remix transfer.

One question I have re: the short U.S. promo 45 edit: After removing the intro from the full U.S. 45, is the shorter version supposed to begin with the snare/swooshy sound effect (found at about 23.4 of the longer
45), or on the downbeat directly afterward (right at the 24 second mark)? Thanks! Again, truly appreciate this good info.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aaronk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 October 2022 at 9:12am
The promo edit starts on the downbeat, so you'll remove the preceding snare and swooshy sound, too.
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Thanks, Aaron! I had hoped it was the other around because it sounds pretty cool with the snare. Oh well!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PopArchivist Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 October 2022 at 7:37am
Originally posted by cmmmbase cmmmbase wrote:

Aaron - the 45 does in fact have the ding! Looks like a re-
dub is needed. I must have only played the 45 when dubbing
it - don't recall the ding from when I heard it on the
radio (some 36 years ago...)


I don't recall hearing a "ding" either but I am sure Aaron can easily fix it so we can. Right Aaron :)
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Wow, what a mess lol. All for one lost ding.
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