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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 123 |
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Actually, that's exactly what you'd do to create the shorter version, but you'd only remove 0:23. You just need to be sure you also include the ending "ding" from another CD source, given that the Hot Remix compilation fades too soon. In summary: - The 3:44 stock 45 version uses the same mix as the "Vocal/Edit Of Remix" found on the 12" but has a different ending than the 12" version. - The 3:19 promo 45 (and apparently on some stock copies) is an edit of the 3:44 stock 45 version. - The longer "Vocal/Extended Remix" version on the 12" is a similar remix but has slightly different echo effects in places. |
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 123 |
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The dub I have from you stops before the ending "ding." Is your 45 truly missing this at the end, or does the dub cut off too soon? Where your file ends, my promo 45 has about another second of silence and then the ding. |
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promojunkie ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 08 August 2020 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Ok, great. thank you all for the info. This solves the
mystery. Another case of an incorrect label on particular pressings. |
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cmmmbase ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 04 May 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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Aaron - the 45 does in fact have the ding! Looks like a re-
dub is needed. I must have only played the 45 when dubbing it - don't recall the ding from when I heard it on the radio (some 36 years ago...) |
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mjb50 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 28 April 2021 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 30 |
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Heh, I doubt very many radio stations would have played the entire fadeout just to get to that ding. It's more of a treat for the fans who bought the single. Same goes for the bubbly intro.
I do remember hearing at least the beginnings of fadeouts on the pop radio in the '80s, but all the way to near-silence, never. I'm always amazed at how you guys remember precisely what edits you heard back then, even their durations. I guess I have a few songs like that in my mental catalog, but these days, I have to double-check everything. I'd like to think it's all still in there somewhere, and it's just the recall that's faulty. Anyway it seems from what you guys have posted, the matrix cut numbers 1 or 2 (after the "A") are 3:43, and 3 & 4 are shortened. My guess is the record company realized that radio didn't like that intro (maybe partly because it sounds a bit like a bong), so they chopped it off, and didn't get new labels made for it. Edited by mjb50 |
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EternalStatic ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 28 September 2019 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Just a bump of appreciation for this thread. I have the U.S. single version taken from Hot Remix, and I did not realize that it ran short because back in the day, I had verified it to the Youtube rip that is also
posted above, which also runs short. FYI, if you have the UK 45 version (aka '7" Pop Edit') from the Ultimate Collection, it also works pretty well as a source for the final "ding" that you need to paste on the end of the Hot Remix version to get the full U.S. 45. Although it is a different mix, the ding is very clean and is a pretty good match the tonality of the Hot Remix transfer. One question I have re: the short U.S. promo 45 edit: After removing the intro from the full U.S. 45, is the shorter version supposed to begin with the snare/swooshy sound effect (found at about 23.4 of the longer 45), or on the downbeat directly afterward (right at the 24 second mark)? Thanks! Again, truly appreciate this good info. |
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 123 |
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The promo edit starts on the downbeat, so you'll remove the preceding snare and swooshy sound, too.
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EternalStatic ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 28 September 2019 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Thanks, Aaron! I had hoped it was the other around because it sounds pretty cool with the snare. Oh well!
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PopArchivist ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 June 2018 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 20 |
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I don't recall hearing a "ding" either but I am sure Aaron can easily fix it so we can. Right Aaron :) |
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Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD."
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eriejwg ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 46 |
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Wow, what a mess lol. All for one lost ding.
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