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   Not to my knowledge were the edits of LGC and LRC ever released as 

lossless downloads. The old Backtrax CD single has LRC, but there's a 

dropout on that CD at 1:00 which is not on the 4Ever comp. 

I understand your logic on why they may not be new transfers, but all of 

the peak limiting/brickwalling happens during mastering. If the engineer 

wanted to use that technique, why not apply it to every track, including 

the digital clones from other CDs? As far as I can tell, the songs that 

are loud toward the end of disc 2 were also that way on their original 

CDs. Given that Moonbeam Levels comes from a bootleg CD, it's hard 

to say what that song was like on that disc. 

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aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 138	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 November 2016 at 9:25am
	Not to my knowledge were the edits of LGC and LRC ever released as lossless downloads. The old Backtrax CD single has LRC, but there's a dropout on that CD at 1:00 which is not on the 4Ever comp. I understand your logic on why they may not be new transfers, but all of the peak limiting/brickwalling happens during mastering. If the engineer wanted to use that technique, why not apply it to every track, including the digital clones from other CDs? As far as I can tell, the songs that are loud toward the end of disc 2 were also that way on their original CDs. Given that Moonbeam Levels comes from a bootleg CD, it's hard to say what that song was like on that disc.
	Aaron Kannowski Uptown Sound 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop

crapfromthepast Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 43	Post Options Post Reply Quote crapfromthepast Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 November 2016 at 9:44am
	Good points. I didn't know about the bootleg CD, but that makes sense. There's a lot of stuff that's leaked out of the vault over the years, usually in pretty dismal quality. Thanks for your help with the analysis. Lots of worthwhile tracks here (yay, Alphabet St.!), and probably the best sound quality we can ever expect for most of them.
	There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one Crap From The Past.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 138	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 November 2016 at 12:33pm
	Yeah, a lot of the fans were very disappointed to learn that it's a rip from a bootleg called Blast From The Past 2.0. If you listen to the track closely, you'll see there is a lot of NR applied to remove tape hiss. The fade out is especially bad. That track did not come from the master tape, as everyone was hoping.
	Aaron Kannowski Uptown Sound 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 54	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 November 2016 at 12:58pm
	Poking my head in for the discussion here. Was the 'album edit' of "7" ever played on the radio? Or, was it always the 45 version?

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 138	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 November 2016 at 1:20pm
	It was the lead track on the promo CD single, so I'd imagine it did get played on some stations.
	Aaron Kannowski Uptown Sound 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop

Santi Paradoa Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 17 February 2009 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 22	Post Options Post Reply Quote Santi Paradoa Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 November 2016 at 2:43pm
	A real shame that the source used for the previously unreleased track ends up being a bootleg. The real test comes in the first quarter of 2017 when the promised deluxe CD reissue of the Purple Rain LP is finally supposed to be released. If they don't go in to the vault for outtakes, demos and/or unreleased tracks for that release then I will simply stick with my current CD copy of this classic '80s album (every song on it is a gem).
	Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 54	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 November 2016 at 3:04pm
	Top Hits U.S.A. back in 1992, for whatever reason, issued the 'acoustic edit' to its subscribers that ran 3:53. I don't think anyone played that, even though there was a one-track CD single issued I believe.

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 54	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 November 2016 at 4:14pm
	I should clarify that was for the song '7'.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 138	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 November 2016 at 6:44pm
	Yes, I do also have that 1-track promo. The same Acoustic Version was on the main 7-track promo CD single, too.
	Aaron Kannowski Uptown Sound 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop