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    Posted: 24 February 2012 at 12:27am
Commercial 45 copies of Gallery's "Nice to Be with You" are in mono and have an actual run time of 2:36. (Thanks once again to Jim for providing the timing info. The printed label time is 2:37.) I'm reporting this because database CD appearances of the song range from 2:33-2:42.
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The 45 (and I'm pretty certain, LP) ran 2:36. All the entries in the database are essentially 2:36, except for the 2 re-recordings at 2:47, and this one:

(2:42) Eric 11529 Hard To Find 45's On CD Vol. 11: Sugar Pop Classics   

(which is also the only one that doesn't have a "mastered from vinyl" notation).
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For the benefit of those like myself who strive for pinpoint accuracy in obtaining as close to the correct 45, LP, and DJ lengths as possible in CD quality, I routinely research and post the actual 45 run time whenever database CD entries for a particular song have times ranging by :05 or greater.

By the way, did the Hard To Find 45's On CD Vol. 11: Sugar Pop Classics CD use a tape source for Gallery's "Nice to Be with You"? It's mastered very nicely on this disc. If I'm not mistaken, many of the master tapes on the Sussex label are either missing or destroyed.

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Indeed many Sussex masters are missing. The UK may have copy masters still extant. A&M Records was Sussex Records licensee in England and in Germany. Bill Withers masters are an exception to this rule, he got them when the label folded and he took them to Columbia when he changed labels.
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By the way, I can now confirm Gordon's hunch is correct that the LP length of "Nice to Be with You" indeed runs 2:36 like the 45.
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Originally posted by Todd Ireland Todd Ireland wrote:

By the way, did the Hard To Find 45's On CD Vol. 11: Sugar Pop Classics CD use a tape source for Gallery's "Nice to Be with You"? It's mastered very nicely on this disc.

I just listened to the copy on this disc, and it is taken directly from the Rhino version with a few exceptions:

- They have done a significant boost to the bass and treble and added a little compression.
- They have replaced the first 1.1 seconds with a new transfer, presumably to hide the "thump" on the Rhino version.
- They have tacked on an earlier chorus at 2:33 during the fadeout, which is why the song runs longer than on other copies.

Although the database currently does not say "mastered from vinyl" for this CD, I can say with certainty that it is.
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Originally posted by KentT KentT wrote:

Indeed many Sussex masters are missing.


I was told some years ago that many of the mono master tapes were bulk erased and reused for new recordings because they were lubricated with whale oil. When the use of whale oil was outlawed the existing tapes were reused because the lubrication lasted much longer than synthetic formula.
The thought was that no one would care about mono when stereo masters existed. Right!
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