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Here is my promo CD single info for both songs:

-No Doubt f/Lady Saw-"Underneath It All" (INTR-10788-2)
1-Radio Edit (listed 4:08; actual 4:07)
2-Album Version (listed 5:02; actual 5:03)

While I own just the one, my friend Tom happens to own a second promo: a non-numbered, 1-track "No Rap" version, with a listed time of (5:06).


-No Doubt f/Bounty Killer-"Hey Baby" (INTR-10614-2)
1-(non-described version) (listed 3:27; actual 3:26)

While I also own just the one promo for this one, my friend Tom happens to own two other import CD singles for it; one includes what he specifies as a "Remix-Dirty", while he shows the other one as including both a "Remix" and a "Club Mix" on it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aaronk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 June 2010 at 7:36am
Great info, Jim! 995wlol sent me a dub of his 12" version, and as he correctly states above, you cannot re-create the "No Rap" version of "Hey Baby."
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 995wlol Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 December 2014 at 9:59am
Digging this up from 4.5 years ago... Has anyone acquired a copy of the no rap version of "Underneath It All" since we last discussed?

Edited by 995wlol
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gary Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 December 2014 at 7:33pm
Originally posted by eriejwg eriejwg wrote:

I worked in commercial radio for 23 years, and know Steve personally. Trust me, he meant no derogatory comment by what he said I'm sure.

TM Studios at one time had the no rap version on GoldDisc 3241N, but it looks like its been discontinued.


This came across on a Chartbreakers Weekly CD that Jones Radio(formally Broadcast Programming) put out(similar to HitDisc). When Jones bought out TM Century and called it JonesTM they created a 3200 Golddisc series with cuts that Jones had that weren't on Golddiscs. Underneath It All and Hey Baby both without the rap appeared in this series(actually on the same disc - 3241).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Steve Carras Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 December 2014 at 8:21pm
I've ONLY heard that radio edit on MY own local
station...the rap doesn't sound offensive (and it's the
catchiest part..IMHO)..may the over-5 minute
length..the partial third verse and some of the
ending's gone from that edit..maybe it's because Lady
Saw, one of the group and leader Gwen Stefani's many
guest stars over the years, may have been under
contract and also required extra pay...I'm in Southern
Calif., the thread starter doesn't have a location
listed..
You know you're really older when you think that younger singer Jesse McCartney's related in anyway to former Beatle Paul McCartney.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hykker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 December 2014 at 7:34am
Originally posted by Gary Gary wrote:

When Jones bought out TM Century and called it
JonesTM they created a 3200 Golddisc series with cuts that
Jones had that weren't on Golddiscs.


Didn't Jones create their own custom edits? I have a
bunch of the Chartbreakers CDs and any number of cuts have
notations to the effect of "JRN extra clean", etc.


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Originally posted by 995wlol 995wlol wrote:

Digging this up from 4.5 years ago... Has anyone acquired a copy of the no rap version of "Underneath It All" since we last discussed?

Yes! In fact, I've acquired a copy of two different "no rap" versions. I have one from a TM Studios GoldDisc that runs 3:31 and one from a promo CD-R that runs 5:04. They are two entirely different recordings.

The 3:31 version:
- Same mix and take as the LP version
- Edits off the radio tuning sound effects and starts with the opening drums
- Lady Saw is removed from the mix from 2:30 to 2:32, and there is a unique section that cannot be created from the LP version

The 5:04 version:
- Has the same drum track as the LP version, but all other instruments were re-recorded in a slightly higher key
- Vocals have been re-recorded in a slightly higher key
- Song has an instrumental section from 2:40 to 3:08 where Lady Saw would be on the LP version

The 5:04 re-recording was a complete surprise when I listened to it today. The CD-R promo is just a plain silver disc with the song title and version written on it with a Sharpie. There are no listed times, and I honestly thought it was the same version as on the GoldDisc until I played it. Crazy!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gary Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 December 2014 at 5:51pm
Originally posted by Hykker Hykker wrote:

Originally posted by Gary Gary wrote:

When Jones bought out TM Century and called it
JonesTM they created a 3200 Golddisc series with cuts that
Jones had that weren't on Golddiscs.


Didn't Jones create their own custom edits? I have a
bunch of the Chartbreakers CDs and any number of cuts have
notations to the effect of "JRN extra clean", etc.


Yes they did do their own edit on a lot of songs. Helped me out several times on airing a really clean version that was not available from the labels.
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I found one of those "Chartbreakers" CDs on the shelf. From January 18, 2002 CHW-0202 and track 13 is a "No Rap" version of Hey Baby.

I heard two distinct clicks at the beginning, which either means I have a dying copy, or possibly it was lifted from the vinyl 12" promo. IDK.
I might play around with it a bit in Audacity to see if the clicks can be minimized.

I didn't actually look in the TM Century database to see if that was also on a GoldDisc. I noted above the 3200 series, which I did have 3241. It has "Underneath it all" too!

Edited by AdvprosD
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Our more "adult variety" oriented local station played an
edit that was, as far as I can tell, the LP mix but with
the rap section taken out. You could hear Lady Saw's cry
of "Reeeaaaalll" right before the edit point. I would
imagine if this had been a dedicated mix, Lady Saw's vocal
track would have been muted entirely. Not certain if this
was something done in-house or if it was serviced to
radio. This edit also ditched the sound effects heard at
the top and tail of the song.
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