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JMD1961 
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 Posted: 14 November 2022 at 2:38am |
The Pop Airplay charts tracts airplay strictly on "Top 40" radio stations and is basically what used to be called "Mainstream Top 40". Radio Songs combines airplay from ALL formats into a single chart. It amounts to being the airplay component of the Hot 100. As far as I know, there's no Mediabase equivalent out there. |
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JMD1961
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Posted: 14 November 2022 at 2:46am |
Mediabase uses different recurrent rules than BDS did. The main difference is that nothing is removed from the chart before it drops out of the top 10. As such, songs like "Heat Waves" and "Stay" had much longer chart runs there than in Billboard. ("Stay" just dropped off at the end of October.) I also read that, even after the merging of BDS and Mediabase, Billboard would control which stations they would follow for which format. So it's possible that the two charts might never line up exactly. |
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AndrewChouffi
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Posted: 14 November 2022 at 6:39am |
This is correct; however, I believe the "Mainstream Top 40" chart was compiled by plays and the multi-format "Radio Songs" chart was compiled by audience impressions (taking into account ratings as to potential audience reach). Not sure if I am correct - maybe Paul Haney could chime in when he gets a chance? However, it's an academic point now that BDS has been phased out. Andy |
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Paul C
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Posted: 14 November 2022 at 4:18pm |
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From billboard.com:
Data and insights company Luminate, which provides data for Billboard’s charts, has partnered with airplay monitoring service Mediabase, and the latter’s radio tracking data will begin fueling Billboard surveys reflecting airplay activity dated Nov. 12. Luminate previously provided radio data for Billboard airplay charts as monitored by BDS. Airplay charts (based on audience and/or plays) finalized Monday, Nov. 7 (dated Nov. 12), will be the first using Mediabase data. Individual-format airplay charts dated Nov. 12 will reflect airplay tracked Monday, Oct. 31, through Sunday, Nov. 6. The Nov. 12-dated Radio Songs chart, which serves as the airplay chart component to the all-genre, multi-metric Billboard Hot 100 (which also blends streaming and sales data, as compiled by Luminate), and reflects a Friday-Thursday cycle, will incorporate BDS data for Oct. 28-30 and Mediabase data for Oct. 31-Nov. 3 (with Mediabase data to power Radio Songs thereafter). Billboard will continue to maintain unique charts and reporter panels, separate from Mediabase’s, for all formats. Upon the change, Billboard will continue to incorporate all current reporting stations that are also monitored by Mediabase for Billboard’s charts. Billboard and Mediabase aim to add additional reporting stations going forward. Meanwhile, weekly and year-end Billboard charts will continue to be compiled via the same parameters previously applied with BDS data. (Year-end airplay rankings will continue to reflect songs’ activity while on corresponding weekly charts.) Along with Radio Songs, Billboard’s United States-based airplay charts encompass: Pop Airplay (Mainstream Top 40); Adult Pop Airplay (Adult Top 40); Adult Contemporary; Country Airplay; Rock & Alternative Airplay; Alternative Airplay; Adult Alternative Airplay (Triple A); Mainstream Rock Airplay; R&B/Hip-Hop Airplay; Mainstream R&B/Hip-Hop Airplay; Adult R&B Airplay; Rap Airplay; Rhythmic Airplay; Latin Airplay; Regional Mexican Airplay; Latin Pop Airplay; Latin Rhythm Airplay; Tropical Airplay; Christian Airplay; Christian AC Airplay; Gospel Airplay; Dance/Mix Show Airplay; Smooth Jazz Airplay; and the seasonal Holiday Airplay chart. |
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EdisonLite
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Posted: 22 December 2022 at 3:35am |
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I've been looking at the Mediabase charts for the past month - and oddly, they
get updated daily it seems. So it's hard to really know a peak position for a whole week. Is there any rendition of Mediabase that gives the weekly peaks? I'm not sure how to interpret this chart or compare it to BDS (or any chart) when a peak position can literally mean it was just there for one day? I'm hoping there's an equivalent chart for each genre that gives weekly peaks. More like BDS. |
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AndrewChouffi
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Posted: 22 December 2022 at 8:41am |
I just go to allaccess.com, navigate to Mediabase charts, then hit the "Published" tab. Weekly charts are updated Monday Morning (cue up the Fleetwood Mac B-side that could have been a big hit...) Andy |
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jebsib
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Posted: 23 December 2022 at 5:04am |
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Edison -
The Mediabase CHR chart (Mainstream / Pop chart) DO have official weekly peaks. These are always the polished & tallied charts that are generated on Sunday nights (Might not be for the next 2 weeks due to Christmas & New Years falling on Sunday)... I don't know where these are officially posted, but you can always see them on the Pulse Music Messageboard site. Go to Pulse Music proboards CHR/Pop thread and find the "Mediabase CHR/Pop Top 50 - part 3" thread it's updated every day - just scroll to the last Sunday evening post - always very clearly posted with color codes and such. This chart is what directly compares with Billboard's Pop Songs every week. |
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EdisonLite
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Posted: 28 December 2022 at 3:50am |
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OK, thanks guys!
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Paul C
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Posted: 28 December 2022 at 11:45am |
The current #1 song on Billboard's country airplay chart is "You Proof" by Morgan Wallen, which isn't even on the Mediabase country chart any more. |
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EdisonLite
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Posted: 11 March 2023 at 3:37pm |
I agree that "Monday Morning" could have and should have been a hit. In fact, somewhere in my incorrect memory, I thought it was an A-side single in the US right before "Over My Head", which obviously became their first big hit. But at least according to wikipedia and 45cat.com, which I just checked, it was never an A-side single. Maybe it was just played as an early, album cut on the pop/rock station I listened to in Boston, WBZ-FM. They were quite rock leaning for a top 40 pop station. |
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