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I think the annual Opus countdown shows are also worth mentioning. IIRC, these only aired once a year and
counted down the Top 100 songs. Not sure what source(s) they used or exactly how many years they ran. I
vividly remember listening to them in the late 70s and very early 80s for sure.
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Originally posted by 995wlol 995wlol wrote:

I think you may be referring to Hitlist Live with Elvis
Duran and Patty Steele?


It was 2 guys, I think the other one might have been named Elliot. Somewhere I saved one of the countdown shows, but a
quick search didn't turn it up.
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I asked a collector about this thread. He is having trouble getting signed up to post here himself, so I'm relaying what he told me:

Quote The Weekly Top 30 and Weekly Music Magazine used their own chart. Rockin' America Top 30 Countdown I believe used a modified version of R&R (likely CHR). Dick Clark NMS's switched to R&R from Cashbox on 1983-03-12. I believe the 1998-2009 Casey shows (AT40, AT20, AT10) used R&R and later Mediabase? I believe AT40 Ryan uses Mediabase.

Rick Dees used Cashbox until 1-12-1985 and switch to Radio & Records for the chart. Later on they would use something else to eventually their own chart.

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I updated my original post above based on answers I've gotten on here so far
and on AT40 Fun & Games. There's a LOT of new info there for those who are
interested. But there are still many unanswered questions, so I
hope some people can answer some of those.

Part of my asking these questions is that I'm hoping to get recordings for some
of these countdowns (and I already have some). But before I do, I want to
know what years the countdowns ran - and what chart was the basis for the
countdown - before making any decisions.

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I thought I'd sum up the remaining questions here, since this is much shorter:

REBIRTH OF AT40 (Casey) after Shadoe:
AT40 (Hot AC) - 2004 (or 1998?) until when - R&R Hot AC chart, then official Mediabase Hot AC chart

DICK CLARK:
National Music Survey (hosted by Bill St. James & Charlie Tuna after Clark) - 85 until ? - R&R AC
Countdown America (also included other hosts) - '83? - 86? (at least) - R&R CHR
Possibly: Countdown America (AC version) - years? - R&R?

RICK DEES
Rick Dees Weekly Top 40 (CHR version) - 9/83-now - Cashbox thru 1/12/85; then R&R -which chart?, then their own chart
Rick Dees Weekly Top 40 Hot AC - years? - R&R Hot AC?
Rick Dees Weekly Top 30 (AC version) - years? - R&R AC?

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Gordon, I know for certain that the Dick Clark's Countdown America used the Radio & Records CHR chart at
least during the times I played it on the air in 1986. IIRC, Clark did both a CHR and AC version of the
countdown (at least for awhile) and I believe that he used the R&R charts for both, but I can't be 100% sure
without hearing some examples of those show(s).
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Thanks Paul. I've updated the lists above.
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BTW, does anyone know how I can format my posts above to go all the way to
the right and not stop at about 5"? I know this was discussed elsewhere last
year, and I think we figured out the reason why. I don't recall if there's any way
the original poster can correct for this. I think the listings above would be
easier to read if I could fix that.
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@EdisonLite, when editing a post, stretch the message box so there are no line breaks where you don't want them.

Depending on how long your paragraphs are, you may need to greatly reduce the size of the text in your browser temporarily.

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Originally posted by Hykker Hykker wrote:

Originally posted by 995wlol 995wlol wrote:

I think you may be
referring to Hitlist Live with Elvis
Duran and Patty Steele?


It was 2 guys, I think the other one might have been named
Elliot. Somewhere I saved one of the countdown shows,
but a quick search didn't turn it up.


I don't recall the show but this must be Elliot Segal --
he and Elvis hosted the Z100 Morning Zoo together in the
'90s, before Elliot went to Washington - he's been doing
mornings on DC101 for decades.

Originally posted by Hykker Hykker wrote:

Dan Ingram did one in the mid-ish 80s, if
I'm not mistaken it was called the Dan Ingram Satellite
Survey. Only heard it once while I was on a road
trip. One of the songs skipped so I doubt it was actually
delivered by satellite.


Ha! Yes - it was the Top 40 Satellite Survey but at least
some stations received it on vinyl. I have shows ranging
from June 1984 to May 1986, so it ran at least that long.

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