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I only revive this thread because of the last few Pat Benatar threads. Are there any updates as to where a CD copy of this version might be found (that being the original "new wave" LP version?) I have the LP, but it's a bit worn, and hard to find again.
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There are no CD issues of this, original 45 pressings and the first pressing Chrysalis LP only. And bloody hard to find a nice copy.
I turn up the good and turn down the bad!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jody Thornton Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 March 2011 at 9:14am
Originally posted by KentT KentT wrote:

There are no CD issues of this, original 45 pressings and the first pressing Chrysalis LP only. And bloody hard to find a nice copy.


Sniff - feel like I could cry...lol. I prefer vinyl, but it would nice to get a scratch free and wear free copy. The problem with any version of this song is that the distortion appears high in the upper mids (3-6 KHz). So it's hard to get a "clean" sound to this record.
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In addition to the first pressing of the US In The Heat Of The Night LP, I have the original mix mastered at 45rpm on it's own side of 12" vinyl:




"We Live For Love" (UK 12" w/poster)
CHS 12 2403

Side A:
WE LIVE FOR LOVE

Side B:
I NEED A LOVER
IF YOU THINK YOU KNOW HOW TO LOVE ME

This actually sounds better than the ITHOTN LP.

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The database notes "single mix" and "LP mix" on "We Live For Love" I have compared the original DJ single with the "LP" mix on a couple of CDs and neither the mono or stereo side of the DJ copy sounds any different to me. I understand that there was an original LP mix as described here, but what's the difference between the commonly issued LP version and 45 versions?
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For anyone curious about the original LP mix of this song who've never heard it, I've put it on youtube.

We Live for Love
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jimct Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 2014 at 4:25pm
I own a 1980 promo 12" single (Chrysalis CHS-20-PDJ) for this song. It
has a sticker in the upper right corner, with a b/w photo of Pat, the artist
and song title in capitals, with a "Specially Mixed For Rock Radio" note just
below. It features the same, listed (3:35) version on both sides.

Although Rock Radio may have been the original inspiration for Neil's
remix, what is included sounds exactly like the 45 version to me. So
clearly, there was a strong, rather immediate consensus among all parties
that this new remix should be marketed as the "definitive" version.

I just wanted to clarify its exact contents here, as the promo 12" single's
sticker description infers that this is a unique mix to the LP version. Which
it was, initially, as compared against the earliest-pressed LP copies. But
anyone not knowing this track's full story might be confused reading it
today, as to exactly what mix is included on it - the 45 and later-pressed
LPs mix.
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DJPaulT recently posted the "Original LP New Wave Mix" (apparently a title he made up) from the 1980 UK 12", as mentioned by user Underground Dub.

As it turns out, this version is a unique single mix. It is closer to the 1st LP version than the more common 2nd LP version, but it is not quite the same.

For comparison, budaniel's YouTube post has the original LP version (despite showing the 12" artwork).

The 12" is "wetter" with the reverb, especially on the snare, and EQ'd brighter.
At 0:15 the repeating synth note is panned left on the LP, center on the 12".
At 0:50 the 12" doubles the drums to create a fill before the cymbal crash. No such echo on the LP.
The 12" fades out early, by 3:46 (printed time 3:45), whereas the LP keeps going for about 7 more seconds (~3:53 on the rip I have).

It seems the same version is on the UK 7" as the 12", so I would just call it the "UK single version".

So there's:
• 3:53 1979 1st album version (rare)
• 3:53 1979 2nd album version (common; has rhythm guitar added at 0:15)
• 3:46 1980 UK single version (remix based on 1st album version)
• 3:34 1980 US single version (early fade of 2nd album version)
• 3:54 '84 Re-Mix a.k.a. We Live for Love '85 (a completely different mix)

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According to Steve Hoffman,
the original LP mix was "removed and razor-bladed shortly after the album was first released."
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Originally posted by mjb50 mjb50 wrote:

DJPaulT recently posted the "Original LP New Wave Mix"
(apparently a title he made up) from the 1980 UK 12", as mentioned by user
Underground Dub.



As it turns out, this version is a unique single mix. It is closer to the 1st LP
version than the more common 2nd LP version, but it is not quite the same.



For comparison, budaniel's YouTube post has the original LP version
(despite showing the 12" artwork).





I tried to find both of these on YouTube, but failed. Could you please post
the links? thanks.
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