Patti LaBelle - New Attitude

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   Could someone pass along the matrix number etched in the vinyl of the commercial 45?

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Pat Downey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat Downey Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 January 2007 at 6:49am
	Could someone pass along the matrix number etched in the vinyl of the commercial 45?

jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 January 2007 at 8:15am
	Pat: Here's the deadwax for the commercial 45 dub I shot out to Aaron last night: MC 16743-RR3-BG1

edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 January 2007 at 4:37pm
	jim my commercial 45 has the same inscription in the run-out groove (MC 16743 - RR3 - BG1).......aaron...are you saying the proper 45 version is on the greatest hits cd??
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edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 January 2007 at 4:43pm
	aaron...i hear what your saying regarding the drum hits on the intro...the 45 drum hit stops cold and has no carry through while cdr versions i have has the carry through....pat...can you review the cds in the database to check to see if abny have the cold snare hits? thx edtop40
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Pat Downey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat Downey Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 January 2007 at 8:10pm
	Now we are getting somewhere on this mystery. The dj 45 (at least the one I have) is not the same as the commercial 45 pressing! Yes when I get time I will go through the database and add the appropriate comments. Does anyone else have a dj copy with a matrix number different from the one I posted above?

edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 January 2007 at 8:20pm
	also....the commercial 45's face as well as the rear of the picture sleeves states "remixed by louil silas, jr.; engineered by taavi mote".....in addition the rear of the picture sleeve states...."special version of the song taken fom the motion picture soundtrack beverly hills cop mca-5553".......so there is additional evidence that the 45 version is diffrent than the full cd/lp version....now let's just hope one of the 4:08 cd versions in the database is the true 45 version.....
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Pat Downey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat Downey Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 February 2007 at 8:08pm
	I have updated the database with comments on the dj and commercial 45 versions of "New Attitude". Let's just hope there aren't multiple pressings of the dj 45!

NightAire Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 20 February 2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 12	Post Options Post Reply Quote NightAire Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 December 2020 at 5:40pm
	I don't feel like this one is really resolved. I've found three mixes: the LP mix which has a subdued snare with some reverb, the commercial 45 mix which has the sharp, gated reverb snare, and the so-called radio mix, which has pronounced reverb and every other hit has a brighter sound. Some suggest the DJ mix might have actually originated on 1996's Greatest Hits. I found the music video on YouTube using the same mix, but it appears dubbed so the accuracy to the original music video soundttacj is in doubt. There are two promo 7" singles listed on doscogs, one tagged bg1 and one tagged bg2. Both say from the soundtrack. Both say remixed by the same guy. Both show the same length. The labels are identical except for the one or two. The 12" has an extended version, club version, and single version. All three match the commercial single with the gated snare. I'd like to see if anyone can find the vinyl of Greatest Hits and tell us which mix the vinyl has. I'd also like to know if anybody has the music video with the original soundtrack still intact and which mix it has. I'd like to see if anybody has the promo ending with a one and which mix it has. Finally, it would be great to get a fresh dub of the version ending with a two. So many questions! Thanks to anybody who can help.
	Gene Savage http://www.BlackLightRadio.com http://www.facebook.com/TulsaSavage Tulsa, Oklahoma USA

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 208	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 December 2020 at 8:07pm
	Pat, I think you'll need to make some database updates based on what I've discovered this evening. Thanks to Tom Diehl's Discogs store, I just received a promo copy of "New Attitude." Upthread, Pat reports his copy has runout matrix MS 16743-RRE-BG2. My promo copy has the exact same matrix as the stock 45: MC 16743-RR3-BG1. As expected, the audio on this copy is also identical to the stock 45. As far as I can tell, though, Pat's copy likely has the same mix as my copy, because all of the database CDs I have that list "dj 45 version" are actually the commercial 45 (and promo 45) version. All of the database CDs I have that currently list "commercial 45 version" are actually the alternate mix that do not match what's on the vinyl. My stock and promo 45s both run 4:05 but have printed times of 3:59. This version has a hard gated snare, but every other snare hit has added reverb which makes beats 2 and 4 sound different. I can confirm that the commercial 45 version is on the following CDs: Body + Soul: Ladies Got Soul (Time-Life) Dancing Queens (Medalist Entertainment) Uptown Saturday Night - Dancing Machine (Time Life) Runway Hits: Music From The Catwalk (Rhino) MCA Hits Sampler (promo CD) The alternate mix can be found on the following CDs: Greatest Hits (MCA, 1996) Rock On 1985: Walking On Sunshine (Madacy) (This disc is not currently listed in the database. Here's a link to the Discogs listing: Rock On 1985: Walking On Sunshine.) This is a slightly different mix. The snare hits sound totally different on this mix, and every snare beat sounds the same (gated and without any trailing reverb).
	Aaron Kannowski Uptown Sound 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 208	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 December 2020 at 7:14am
	Pat kindly sent me a dub of his promo 45, and I can now say with 100% certainty that it matches the stock and promo 45 that I have. That means database CDs currently stating "dj 45 version" should simply say "45 version." CDs currently listed as having the "commercial 45 version" should probably say "neither 45 nor LP version."
	Aaron Kannowski Uptown Sound 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop