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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 190 |
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Good info, Steve! Pat, you might want to make a note in the database that two LP versions exist.
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 83 |
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From the many CD versions I have, you wouldn't even know that the vocal-intro versions exist. All have the instrumental-intro version. I don't ever remember hearing the vocal-intro version on the radio in NYC, and I don't think I knew it even existed until the movie Priscilla.
I found pictures of the promo 45s in discogs.com. I found white-label 45s for both versions, with printed times of 3:37 and 3:25. I couldn't see the matrix numbers on their scans, and I can't tell which versions are really on the promo 45s. I think the clue is on one scan of the commercial 45, where the 3:25 printed time has a "REV" in the matrix number. If I had to bet a nickel, I'd bet that the 3:37 vocal-intro version came out first and didn't do so well. I'd bet that Polydor then put out the 3:25 instrumental-intro version, which did well and became the hit. "Shake Your Groove Thing" features a live drummer playing to a click track. A convenient way to reference the various masterings is by the BPM, since they're all a little different from one another. The first version of "Shake Your Groove Thing" I have on CD is on the first various-artist disco collection on CD, Silver Eagle/Warner Special Products' 2-CD Dancin' The Night Away (1988). It runs 132.9 BPM here. This CD has a very bass-heavy EQ, with practically no high end on this song. The same analog transfer is used on:
As usual, I recommend Rhino's Disco Years Vol. 1 (1990). In general, if it's not available on Rhino's Billboard discs, go for Rhino's Disco Years discs. Edited by crapfromthepast |
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There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one Crap From The Past.
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Hykker ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 30 October 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 25 |
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OK, I'm confused. Are you saying that some copies of the 45
had the cold vocal intro? I have both a promo and stock single of this, and both have :13 intro. I do remember JB- 105 in Providence playing the cold intro, but don't recall hearing it anywhere else. I was working at an AC station at the time and we (obviously) didn't play it. |
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Bill Cahill ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 27 June 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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I have a promo, with vinyl trail wriing PD-14514 78 NP-3787-S CP-1,and it has the vocal intro. I'd assume this was the original release.
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Santi Paradoa ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 February 2009 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 27 |
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All these years later I'm surprised nobody has bothered to take the LP version with the vocal intro, done the early fade to match the rarer 45 version and released it on CD. I have the LP version, the 12" single version, plus the 45 version with the instrumental intro on CD. Wonder if that rarer 45 version has perhaps been released on an import CD.
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eriejwg ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 78 |
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10 years ago, I see I proposed the possibility of
pasting the vocal intro onto the more common 45 version to create the rarer 45 version. I finally just tried that and it runs 3:38. Does that mean I have the rarer 45 version now? |
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MMathews ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 August 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I have the vocal-intro version on one CD. It appeared on
one of those 1995 GSC 3-CD box sets called "Dance Fever - The Best Of Disco". I bought it at Costco. Set was mfg. by Polygram so it's filled with stuff from that catalog. The set has a lot of 45 versions, but some are LP versions. What's interesting is they chose whichever version was less common on CD at that time. Mastering is excellent. Re: Vocal-only intro version. This was one of the two pressings of the stock 45. Apparently the less common one. We have both pressings at work. I'll pull them both and report back. I bought this 45 in NY when it was new and got the drum- intro version and like you Ron, that was all I heard on radio. I never heard this vocal-intro mix until I bought this GSC CD set. And until this forum, to me it was a mystery mix. I keep saying "mix" because you can't tack the vocal- intro onto the other single version. They are different mixes. One difference you might notice is in the opening choruses the common 45 has cymbal crashes under the title, but the other mix does not have any. More info later.... MM Edited by MMathews |
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KentT ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 25 May 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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As did I as both current, and oldie (we still play it every few days) |
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I turn up the good and turn down the bad!
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KentT ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 25 May 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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The cold vocal intro was serviced to radio as a promo 45. This version didn't get hardly any play in my era, the shorter 45 with instrumental beginning was the common hit 45 which got the airplay and charted high. |
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MMathews ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 August 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Just some follow-up details ... when I posted earlier I
hadn't yet seen the database. So I guess this vocal- intro mix is not rare on CD at all. It just always appears in the LP length. My GSC CD is just faded early, but not quite early enough to be the rare 45 version. And upon closer listen, I agree with Aaron..after those cymbal crashes in the opening chorus the mixes are identical. So erie, the answer to your question is yes, you created the rarer 45 version. If I am reading correctly, the real MIA version on CD is the 2nd LP version with instrumental intro. Aaron posted that it's on the CD for "2 Hot!" but that CD is not in the database. Anyway I pulled the stock copy of the rare 45 and it matches Jim's promo, listed (3:39) and actual (3:37). The deadwax # is PD14514 78 NP-3787-S-CP1 As listed earlier in this thread the deadwax on the common hit 45 is PD14514 78 NP-3787-REV-S-56-1 So all available info confirms the vocal-intro stock 45 was the first early pressing but by the time this was a national hit, the drum intro version had fully taken over and that's what most consumers heard and bought. MM |
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