"Fernando" - ABBA
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Topic: "Fernando" - ABBA
Posted By: sriv94
Subject: "Fernando" - ABBA
Date Posted: 02 May 2025 at 2:00pm
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While in the car the other day, I had SiriusXM 70s on 7 on, and they played a version of "Fernando" with the first 12 seconds lopped off (and I seem to recall hearing that version on other radio stations too). Was that ever issued as a promo, or was it just an edit for the sake of editing? ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
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Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 03 May 2025 at 5:14am
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My promo 45 has the fade intro. I've always disliked songs with fade-in intros, it sounds loose on the air. I've done my share of intro-editing when I was a jock/MD. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 03 May 2025 at 10:09am
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I've noticed some strange edits on 70s on 7. One that sticks out is Roundabout. The version they play runs around 4:52 with some awkward edits. I'm thinking it comes from a TM GoldDisc (501R) because they have a 4:52 listed version in their database. ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 04 May 2025 at 1:19pm
I, too, dislike fade-in intros. For example, Limahl's "Never Ending Story". Presumably, what they started with in the studio was a track that was at full volume at the beginning. There was some other hit song I heard the other day that does this - I forget what but a '70s or '80s song - and again, I wish they had kept the fader up from the get-go :) Can anyone else think of hits from that era that do this? |
Hykker wrote:Posted By: LunarLaugh
Date Posted: 08 May 2025 at 5:21pm
"Never Ending Story" fades in at the intro and then fades out at the end in order to imply that the song is, in fact, never ending. The LP version of Fleetwood Mac's "Over My Head" fades in but the 45 starts cold with an edit right on the downbeat taken from (I presume) a later part of the song. ------------- https://thelunarlaugh.bandcamp.com/ - Listen to The Lunar Laugh! |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 08 May 2025 at 6:27pm
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The fade-in on Boston's "More Than A Feeling" still bugs me to this day. ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |
Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 09 May 2025 at 4:22am
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A few other hits from that era that fade-in: Space Oddity - David Bowie Black Water - Doobie Brothers Turn To Stone - ELO Swingtown - Steve Miller That's just off the top of my head. I'm sure there are more. |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 09 May 2025 at 6:55am
Every station I've worked at, including a couple classic rockers always cued it to the first bass note in the intro. Their follow-up single "Long Time" was the same way, though that only gets played today on classic rockers, and it's the full LP version.
a couple more that immediately come to mind... Joy - Apollo 100 While You See A Chance - Steve Winwood Don't Stand So Close To Me - Police Steal Away - Robbie Dupree
I think the 45 is a remix too. |
Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 09 May 2025 at 10:25am
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A few others that come to mind... From the 60s: Eight Days A Week - The Beatles Suzie Q - CCR From the 80s: Money For Nothing - Dire Straits Where The Streets Have No Name - U2 |
Posted By: 995wlol
Date Posted: 09 May 2025 at 1:34pm
The B-side of the promo 45 includes the "Remix" which actually starts at full volume. This is the version my local station played during its original run. |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 10 May 2025 at 6:20am
It is. And it's damn near mono. There's additional Buckingham guitar flourishes with stereo reverb that help propel the song. Andy Edited to add: Hykker was talking about "Over My Head"; there are a few records being discussed in this thread. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 10 May 2025 at 1:48pm
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Interesting examples here and yeah, most all bother me. The only one that I'd put in a different category is "While You See a Chance", which has a string pad (chord) that fades in. Lots of songs do that. It's more the ones that had drums, or other beat-like sounds, that fade in - which I wish just started cold :) Oh and "Never Ending Story" fading in and out, being never ending. I never would have thought of that. And it's been about 40 years! lol |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 04 June 2025 at 7:00pm
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For Turn To Stone, Steal Away & Never Ending Story ... Has anyone here tried to create versions where the intro didn't fade in? (I've done that for an album cut or 2. There generally needs to be a later portion, either in the intro or an instrumental piece before Verse 2 that's at full volume, which can be substituted in for the actual (faded-in) intro. "Turn to Stone" came on today, and how I wished that intro started cold. For the 1st 2 songs, I'm sure the intros were fully there, so I don't know why they'd do this. |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 05 June 2025 at 7:00am
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"Steal Away" can be easily done as the first kick drum beat is on the CD (albeit 60db lower). In the early 2000s when I converted my CDs & vinyl to my gig laptop drive that's exactly what I did. It sounds pretty good. Andy |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 05 June 2025 at 10:25am
| I'll try that. Was the beginning of the intro real hissy? When I've done that sort of thing with a CD, that can happen. (Then I have to use a dehisser in stages so it sounds natural.) |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 05 June 2025 at 7:27pm
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I don't recall using any NR, but it was nearly 25 years ago I did it, so my memory may be somewhat hazy. I do remember taking it from 'Radio Daze' which you were credited on! Andy |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 06 June 2025 at 1:54am
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Andy, you noticed that. lol. That's the CD source I used for Steal Away, so I'll try to raise the intro and see how it goes. I wish I could figure out a way for Turn to Stone. For some reason, that intro fade-in over a full track is the one I'd most like to hear without the fade :) |