I Just Can’t Stop Loving You spoken intro
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Topic: I Just Can’t Stop Loving You spoken intro
Posted By: jebsib
Subject: I Just Can’t Stop Loving You spoken intro
Date Posted: 07 June 2006 at 5:38pm
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Given the cringe-inducing vocals, I am almost embarrassed about this, but I really need a copy of the spoken intro version of Michael Jackson's “I Just Can't Stop Loving You” from the ‘Bad’ CD. The first week of its release, my local Top 40 station played it, and so in my mind it became the definitive version.
I understand from Brian W's thread that this version only exists on original UK CD copies; Any ideas on what the catalog number would be or any way to differentiate the original from subsequent pressings? Any help would be incredibly appreciated! |
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Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 07 June 2006 at 6:26pm
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I think, though I'm not positive, that overseas copies never did replace the spoken intro version. (That doesn't apply to the Special Edition version.)
So what I'd recommend is find used copies in the UK on Ebay, then PM the seller and ask if the track has the spoken intro or not. That's how I got a copy again. |
Posted By: elcoleccionista
Date Posted: 07 June 2006 at 7:33pm
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If it helps you to narrow down your choices, here is the info on my non-US "Bad" CD release whic does NOT have the spoken intro.
Catalog number: EPC 450290 2 Disc itself says Made in Austria. Back insert states Printed in Holland, and in the all rights reserved section, it states "...In the UK apply for public performance licenses to PLL..." Note: This edition has the Spanish version of the song as the lead track on the disc, although it is not noted on disc or inserts track listing, just a sticker on the front insert. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 07 June 2006 at 8:43pm
Oh, really? Wow, what a cool item. |
elcoleccionista wrote:Posted By: jebsib
Date Posted: 07 June 2006 at 8:50pm
| Thank you so much - you guys are always VERY thorough; Much appreciated. I'll post back here when I get this elusive version! |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 08 June 2006 at 3:12am
| My copy with the spoken intro is actually not UK, it's Austrian. It's EPC 450290 2. |
Posted By: elcoleccionista
Date Posted: 08 June 2006 at 4:23am
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Brian, your has the same catalog number as mine, sounds like we have different pressings but same manufacture origin.
I bought it from a friend who was letting go of a lot of her CD's years ago. She bought it around 1992 as I can recall. The sticker reads "BONO ESPECIAL: SELECCION EXTRA "Todo Mi Amor Eres Tu". Since in Spanish, I guess it was thought for Latin America distribution. |
Posted By: Jeff H.
Date Posted: 08 June 2006 at 7:59am
| The original CD pressing of "Bad" contain the version of "I Just Can't Stop Loving You" with the spoken intro. The 2001 remaster uses the shorter version with the intro edited off. I used to own a copy of the promo CD single and it was the edited version. |
Posted By: elcoleccionista
Date Posted: 08 June 2006 at 8:11am
Yes Jebsib! Jeez, all that wimpy whispering : P Reminds me of his lines on the "Thriller" video: "I was wondering if, ehem, ehem, you would be my girl" in that oh so fragile tone. "I'm not like other guys" he informs her, and what an accurate premonition that would prove to be : p Sorry, I had to. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 08 June 2006 at 12:41pm
| I do have the Spanish "I Just Can't Stop Loving You" on a promo hits sampler from '87, but I think it has since been issued on the Bad Special Edition. |
Posted By: elcoleccionista
Date Posted: 08 June 2006 at 1:20pm
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Indeed Brian, I remember looking at the Special Edition's track listing and noticed it.
I didn't think the extra tracks worth buying it, even though these editions are mid priced. I did get the "Thriller" one though at a bargain section, around US$4. It sounds nice, but again the extras seemed rather uninteresting, I do recall finding the complete Vincent Price "rap" fun though. |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 12:25pm
| Pat, my commercial 45 for this does actually run (4:22), as you currently note in the database, but my 45 has a listed time of (4:17), not the (4:11) time currently notated in the database. |
Posted By: bwolfe
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 6:42am
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I have it on one of those Gold and Platinum discs released in the 80's.
I believe its volume 4. Its been awhile, but didn't that disc come from Columbia House? The line where he says "people misunderstand me" is so true. ------------- the way it was heard on the radio |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 18 December 2010 at 12:59am
| I'm guessing that it is an oversight in the database that three CDs are labeled "LP version." Given that the 45 and LP are the same, the designator should probably be removed for those discs. |
Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 19 December 2010 at 10:28am
| Well I guess there is some doubt as to what is the 45 version and what is the LP version. My original "Bad" cd included the spoken introduction (US pressing) and the commercial 45 contains the spoken introduction but the cd version (US pressing) was quickly changed to eliminate the spoken introduction so I am guessing that the majority of the cd's pressed to date do not include the spoken introduction. With this in mind, perhaps we should take a poll on how may think the 45 version and LP version are the same. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 19 December 2010 at 10:55am
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My vote is that they are the same. In every other case where the vinyl
LP contains something different from the CD counterpart, the CD gets labeled as such. Case in point: Nightmare On My Street by Jazzy Jeff/Fresh Prince. In that case, the full-length CD has the 45 version while the vinyl LP has the LP version. So the reason I'm voting that way is to keep consistency within the database and to make it clearer for the reader. When I first looked at the entry, it was confusing to read the song note and then see the LP version comment. I had to go back and research whether there were other differences besides the spoken intro that was warranting an LP version comment. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 19 December 2010 at 11:08am
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Since the cd version (US pressing) was quickly changed to eliminate the spoken introduction, and the majority of CDs to date have the edited version, I feel the 2 versions are different and should be noted as such in the database.
There are certainly rare gray-area occasions like Whitney's "Greatest Love of All", when nearly a year after the album's release, the song was remixed (with elec piano) and released as a single and that version became the CD version. In that particular case, I felt the 2 versions should be listed as different versions (single version and album version) with the footnote that some CDs contain the "elec piano" single mix and others contain the "acoustic piano" album mix. Though I almost always agree with Aaron, in this Michael Jackson case I feel the distinction should be noted as "single version" and "album version" with the footnote that the CD originally contained the "long version with spoken intro" for a short time. As the board readers are often trying to find very distinct versions, I feel it's best for the database to note version distinctions (single vs. album) whenever possible, and then put footnotes that say, for instance, "early CDs contained the album version" or "early CDs contained the single version". Though the Jazzy Jeff song may be listed otherwise, I don't think we need to use that example for all other gray-area releases such as this one. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 19 December 2010 at 12:04pm
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I probably could have done a better job of explaining myself.
I do agree that this can be somewhat gray area, especially when the switch happens while the album is still on the charts. The main problem I had with this particular entry is because when reading the song note, I couldn't be 100% sure that the 45 and LP are the same. It merely says that promo copies removed the spoken intro found on the commercial 45 and LP. Then, when I look at the entry for the "Bad" CDs, it says "LP version." So, then I was questioning whether there was another difference between the 45 and LP. It wasn't until I revisited this thread that I discovered there were no other differences. Again, just for clarity, I'd vote for removing the LP version designator, since the non-spoken intro version never appeared on a commercial 45 copy. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 19 December 2010 at 12:14pm
Actually, that probably wasn't the best example, but it was the only one I could think of that happened about the same time as the MJ song. In fact, the Jazzy Jeff example is the same as your Whitney Houston example. The 45 is a different version and was included on later pressings of the album (or in the case of Jazzy Jeff, CD pressings, which was released several months after the vinyl LP). In the case of MJ, the 45 is the same as the LP, but they switched the LP and CD pressings with the PROMO version. |
Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 24 December 2010 at 7:55pm
I do not have the disc on hand, but I ripped all of my CDs to hard drives, and I just played it. I have an original U.S. pressing made in Terre Haute, IN, and the disc does have the spoken intro on the song. ------------- |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 25 December 2010 at 2:43pm
Actually, what I said was that it was on all original pressings of the CD, but that I thought it might never have been replaced on some of the European imports. |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 27 December 2010 at 9:14pm
Ok, here's my take on this... Currently, all database CD appearances of "I Just Can't Stop Loving You" contain either an "LP version" or a "DJ 45 version" comment. At first glance, this would automatically suggest to me that the 45 version has never been issued on CD. However, we do know that the LP version appearances in the database are identical to the 45 version. So in my opinion, you cannot list one version without the other. Since all pressings of the Bad CD share the same catalog number, I would combine it into one database entry and state the comment like this... (4:11) Epic 40600 Bad (early pressings of this CD feature the commercial 45 and original LP version running 4:23; all subsequent pressings contain the DJ 45 version and run 4:11) Meanwhile, the remaining CDs containing an "LP version" comment could be revised to state something like: "commercial 45 and original LP version as found on early pressings of Bad album". Anyone agree? Disagree? |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 28 December 2010 at 1:23am
| I agree, but maybe something shorter like "(45/original LP version)" and (DJ/remastered LP Version) |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 28 December 2010 at 10:34am
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Pat, in many song's cases, you have left most CD entries blank but included the occasional odd CD entry like "live version" or "dj 45 version" or "neither the 45 or LP version". I think the simplest case for this song, after giving it more thought and reading the most recent responses above, is to take a similar approach here and do the following:
* Under the song's header, say something like: "The commercial 45 and original LP version are the same and run 4:23. The dj 45 edits out the spoken intro and runs 4:11." * For the "Bad" CD, write exactly as Todd says: (4:11) Epic 40600 Bad (ear ly pressings of this CD feature the commercial 45 and original LP version running 4:23; all subsequent pressings contain the DJ 45 version and run 4:11) * For all 4:23 entries, give no detailed descriptor. * For all other 4:11 versions (besides "Bad"), write "dj 45 version". Since the 45 and original LP versions are the same, it seems like this would be the simplest approach, and I don't think anyone would be confused about what version would be on a CD. Plus, I think you've taken a similar approach for other songs. |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 28 December 2010 at 12:13pm
| I agree with your final assessment, Gordon. And like you said, it's also consistent with how the database has dealt with other similar situations. |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 19 February 2020 at 11:04am
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Quick question: Does anyone remember what intro radio
used for this song? I don't remember hearing the spoken intro on the radio at all, and my memory is that even the radio edit with the long fade-in intro was cut out by some stations. I seem to remember it starting on the radio where the spoken intro would end. Does anyone else remember hearing it that way? |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 19 February 2020 at 2:54pm
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No, the promo CD single did not have the spoken intro,
it had the instrumental backing to the intro instead. And it was later removed from the album version as well, as early as 1988. I always thought the spoken intro was dreadful. |
Posted By: LunarLaugh
Date Posted: 19 February 2020 at 3:40pm
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WAY back in the day (mid 90s) an uncle of mine lent me
their CD of "BAD" so I could dup down "Leave Me Alone" on to a cassette for myself (still really enjoy that song). I distinctly remember hearing the whisper intro of "I Just Can't Stop Loving You" on that CD when listening to it in the car before I returned it to my uncle and being surprised because I had only heard the instrumental-only mix on the HIStory album. I had no way of knowing back then that it was "rare" and was deleted from later pressings. If memory serves me, the CD was a record club issue (I'm leaning towards BMG but it may have very well been Columbia House). ------------- https://thelunarlaugh.bandcamp.com/ - Listen to The Lunar Laugh! |
Posted By: AutumnAarilyn
Date Posted: 19 February 2020 at 6:52pm
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It's not really rare; you just have to find an early
copy. One way of knowing the earlier pressing is the Epic logo which was in script with a line underneath it for the earlier pressing. My issue was that they took the horns out of the verses of "Bad" for the single version and replaced subsequent album pressings with that version. That's why I needed an early copy. |