Whitney Houston - Miracle
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Topic: Whitney Houston - Miracle
Posted By: aaronk
Subject: Whitney Houston - Miracle
Date Posted: 07 July 2006 at 9:50am
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In the "DJ Edits" thread, there was some info posted about "Miracle" by Whitney Houston. I recently obtained a copy of the promo single, and I have some interesting news to report.
The insert of my copy has the catalog number ASCD-2222; however, the disc itself has a catalog number of ASCD-2252. The printed run time says (4:29), but the actual run time is (4:34). So, apparently there is more than one DJ single of "Miracle." |
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Posted By: torcan
Date Posted: 07 July 2006 at 10:09am
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I read over that thread and didn't see any info as to what exactly's been deleted on the DJ edit (hopefully I didn't miss it)
So I'm going to borrow a question from Doug: how does the DJ edit differ from the album version? I was actually listening to this song the other day and trying to think of where edits could have occured. I came up with a few that could have trimmed it down about a minute (I'll post them later if anyone's interested). To be honest I didn't know there was an edit for that song. With certain songs, the way they're structured, to me it seems hard to do edits on them. Have there been any long songs out there that are just not possible to edit in a reasonable fashion? |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 08 July 2006 at 1:33pm
| To be honest, I'm not sure what was chopped out to make the edit. The only copy I own of this song is my newly acquired DJ single. |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 08 July 2006 at 2:02pm
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aaronk wrote:Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 09 July 2006 at 3:19pm
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I just compared Jim's version to mine, and here's my findings:
- the (4:34) edit removes from (3:02) to (3:19) of the longer DJ edit, cutting from "the choice" to "the voice" - the (4:34) edit has a drum beat missing at (4:19); it's only a bongo on this edit, whereas the other DJ edit has a drum beat and bongo together---a mix difference rather than editing difference - the (4:34) edit starts fading around (4:19), which is about 15 seconds earlier in the song than the longer edit - the longer edit has a quick fade and about seven more seconds of audio at the end than the (4:34) version |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 07 May 2008 at 11:07am
| I believe the commercial single version of "Miracle" is the same as its album counterpart, but can anyone confirm the exact commerical single run time for us? |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 07 May 2008 at 5:12pm
| I seem to recall that the cassingle used the album version and the 45 used the 4:34 edit... I think Ed can straighten us out on this. |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 3:50pm
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the commercial cassingle conatins the full length 5:43 version....i don't have the 45 to double check that version and run time....jim??.....i don't have the cassingle right now to scan...but will be getting them this weekend... ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 7:35pm
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Calling Ron G.,
Can you post edit points to recreate the 4:34 DJ edit? |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 7:50pm
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Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 7:52pm
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well....if there is anything i can add to the board is my 1,000 plus cassingles which i will be adding scans of in the coming years.... ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: cmmmbase
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 9:20pm
| my commercial 45 has a listed time of 5:43 as well... |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 9:32pm
Thanks, cmmmbase. If you get a chance in the next few days, maybe you can time it for us. |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 09 May 2008 at 5:42am
| I don't have the DJ edit. If you could send it out to me, I'll be happy to dissect it. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 09 May 2008 at 9:01pm
| Long ago, I posted info above about the DJ edit and what is removed. There is one extra drum beat on the DJ edit that is nowhere to be found on the LP version, so you won't be able to make your own to get the "true" dj edit. |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 09 May 2008 at 9:30pm
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my commercial cassingle issued as arista 2222 contains, on both sides, a non described version which runs 5:41 and is identical to the version on the cd
(S) (5:41) Arista 8616 I'm Your Baby Tonight i also have the commercial 45 with the same catalog number and it contains a non descibed version with a listed run time of 5:43 but actually runs 5:41....the run out groove of the 45 states "as-2222-sa-sp1-dmm" my promo cd single issue as arista ascd-2222 contains only one track 1-miracle (4:59) 
 ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 09 May 2008 at 11:16pm
| Well Ed, my friend, it looks like, (unless Arista also happened to issue an old 78RPM vinyl single for this song!), :) you appear to have singlehandedly provided us with all of the sound-carrying single formats for "Miracle". Nice job as always, sir! |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 10 May 2008 at 7:17am
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well...i do try to be thorough!! ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: Underground Dub
Date Posted: 12 February 2012 at 9:05pm
| Could a kind soul please share the 4:59 promo version... :\ |
Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 14 February 2012 at 10:24am
I am not able to PM you. But you can send me a note with an email if you wish. ------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Richmond Hill, Ontario) |
Posted By: Underground Dub
Date Posted: 14 February 2012 at 9:11pm
| Thanks so much Jody, I should have mentioned that someone helped me out yesterday. :) |
Posted By: Underground Dub
Date Posted: 25 February 2012 at 12:38pm
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Wanted to add to this thread, I recently purchased the promo CD for "Miracle" and it features the shorter 4:34 edit.
The disc itself is almost identical to the scan provided by Ed, but also includes the listed time (4:29) in the empty space at the top left and the catalog number is changed. The catalog number on the inserts is ASCD-2222, as on the 4:59 edit, but the DISC states ASCD-2252. It appears Arista "updated" the mix midway through promotion yet used the same artwork for both releases. The video uses the 4:59 edit. Does anyone have insight as to which was the more commonly played version at radio? Also, which of these two promos seems to be more common? |
Posted By: elcoleccionista
Date Posted: 11 March 2012 at 12:03pm
Thanks Aaron for noting this difference! The album version is missing the drum beat, so the 5:03 DJ version can be considered a remix as opposed to the 4:34 which is only edited. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 11 March 2012 at 2:31pm
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Or is it possible that the drum beat is in a different spot on the album? (i.e. it had been cut out of the longer DJ version, so I couldn't create the short edit from the long edit) ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: elcoleccionista
Date Posted: 14 March 2012 at 10:02am
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Hey Aaron, not sure I'm understanding your question but
that final drum beat is the same one used from the second chorus on. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 01 May 2020 at 10:50am
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To provide an update on this, the 4:59 version on the promo CD single has a very small mix different at 4:36 compared to the LP version, which is the missing drum beat referenced earlier. The 4:59 version, therefore, cannot be edited from the LP version. The 4:59 version HAS a drum beat (at 4:36), while the LP version does not (same part occurs at 5:11 of the LP version).
By contrast, it appears the shorter 4:34 version is a straight edit of the LP version. As mentioned earlier, there is no drum beat at 4:19, which musically matches the same part of the LP version at 5:11. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |