Pat Benatar - Single Versions on CD
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Topic: Pat Benatar - Single Versions on CD
Posted By: Underground Dub
Subject: Pat Benatar - Single Versions on CD
Date Posted: 11 July 2006 at 9:30am
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Hope this reference helps those seeking out Pat Benatar's single versions on compact disc. Her discography is a mess with low budget compilations, but by buying 2 or 3 of the official ones you can gather all of the correct mixes in superb sound quality. :)
Best Shots (UK, 1987) This collects all of her UK singles up to 1986. - Hit Me With Your Best Shot (Remix) - Love Is A Battlefield (Single Version) - We Belong (Single Version) with speed glitch on intro. The tape starts slow and within 2 seconds slips into the correct speed. - We Live For Love (aka We Live For Love '85...from the We Belong 12" single) - Sex As A Weapon (Album Version) - Invincible (Single Edit) - Shadows Of The Night (Single Fade) - Heartbreaker (Album Version) - Fire And Ice (Album Version) - Treat Me Right (Album Version) - If You Think You Know How To Love Me (Single Edit) - You Better Run (Album Version) Best Shots (US Version, 1989) - Love Is A Battlefield (Album Version) - Promises In The Dark (Album Version) - One Love (Album Version) - All Fired Up (Album Version) - We Live For Love (Remixed Album Version) - Hell Is For Children (Album Version) - Shadows Of The Night (Album Version) - Hit Me With Your Best Shot (Album Version) - We Belong (Album Version) - Invincible (Album Version) - Fire And Ice (Album Version) - Heartbreaker (Album Version) - Suffer The Little Children/Hell Is For Children (Live 1988) CD Bonus Track - Painted Desert (Album Version) CD Bonus Track - Outlaw Blues (1989 Re-recorded version of song originally included on 1984's Tropico) CD Bonus Track Greatest Hits (Worldwide, 2005) - Heartbreaker (Album Version) - We Live For Love (Remixed ALBUM Version, the correct single version is this mix faded early) - Hit Me With Your Best Shot (Album Version) - Hell Is For Children (Album Version) - Treat Me Right (Single Version) debut on CD, remixed and faded earlier than the album version - You Better Run (Album Version) - Fire And Ice (Album Version) - Promises In The Dark (Album Version) - Precious Time (Album Version) - Shadows Of The Night (Single Fade) - Little Too Late (Single Edit) - Looking For A Stranger (Album Version) - Love Is A Battlefield (Single Version) - We Belong (ALBUM version, not the single mix!...) - Ooh Ooh Song (Album Version) - Invincible (Single Edit) - Sex As A Weapon (Album Version) - Le Bel Age (Single Fade) - All Fired Up (Single Version) - One Love (Single Edit) All Fired Up: The Very Best Of Pat Benatar (US, 1994) CD1 - I Need A Lover (Album Version) - If You Think You Know How To Love Me (Single Edit) - Heartbreaker (Album Version) - We Live For Love (Rock Radio Mix / Single Version) - finally, the PROPER single version on CD - You Better Run (mono version) - this was clearly a mastering oversight. The Album Version is the single version. - Hit Me With Your Best Shot (Album Version) - Treat Me Right (Album Version with Fade) - the length of the single version, but the wrong mix. See 2005's Greatest Hits for the correct mix. - Hell Is For Children (Album Version) - Fire And Ice (Album Version) - Promises In The Dark (Album Version) - Shadows Of The Night (Single Fade) - Little Too Late (Single Edit) - Looking For A Stranger (Album Version) - Anxiety (Get Nervous) (Album Version) - Love Is A Battlefield (Single Version) - Lipstick Lies (Album Version) CD2 - We Belong (Single Version) NO GLITCH! - Ooh Ooh Song (Album Version) - Temporary Heroes (Single Version) - Invincible (Single Edit) - Sex As A Weapon (Album Version) - Le Bel Age (Single Fade) - All Fired Up (Single Version) - Don't Walk Away (Single Fade) - Let's Stay Together (Single Version) - One Love (Single Edit) - True Love (Album Version) - Payin' The Cost To Be The Boss (Album Version) - So Long (Album Version) - Everybody Lay Down (Single Edit) - Somebody's Baby (Single Edit) - Crazy (Single Edit) - Everytime I Fall Back (Single Version / Remix Edit) |
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Posted By: Underground Dub
Date Posted: 11 July 2006 at 9:39am
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To sum things up, you need Greatest Hits, All Fired Up: The Very Best Of Pat Benatar and Best Shots (International, 1987) to collect all of her top 40 songs in their correct single versions.
All of her Top 40 entries are featured on the 2005 single disc release Greatest Hits, but they neglected to use the proper single mixes for "We Live For Love", "Hit Me With Your Best Shot" and "We Belong". For "We Live For Love" and "We Belong" you will need the 1994 double CD All Fired Up: The Very Best Of Pat Benatar. For "Hit Me With Your Best Shot" you will need the international pressing of Best Shots. Though all of the Top 40 singles are featured on All Fired Up: The Very Best Of Pat Benatar, Greatest Hits is still a necessary purchase as it is the only CD release of the Treat Me Right single mix. Best Shots (US) is unnecessary if you are trying to obtain the US Top 40 mixes, but it does include (as CD bonus tracks) a live recording of Suffer The Little Children/Hell Is For Children and a new recording of Outlaw Blues otherwise only released on a promotional One Love CD Single. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 11 July 2006 at 10:16am
You'll also need the UK CD Best Shots, unless you don't care about having the 45 version of "Hit Me With Your Best Shot." :) The "Rock Guitar" mix IS the US 45 version. |
Underground Dub wrote:Posted By: Underground Dub
Date Posted: 11 July 2006 at 10:35am
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Oh my god, you're right. It's been years since I spun the 45. Thank you so much for catching that!
Let me edit my list. Everything else I assure you is correct. :) |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 11 July 2006 at 12:16pm
| So the single of Sex as a Weapon used the Album Version? |
Posted By: Underground Dub
Date Posted: 11 July 2006 at 12:22pm
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Yes, the album and single versions of Sex As A Weapon are identical and run 4:15.
Another note: "Ooh Ooh Song" has an edit, only on promo and non-US singles (7" and 12"), and "Promises In The Dark" has a promo-only edit (also limited to vinyl). |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 11 July 2006 at 1:04pm
| Regarding "We Live for Love" and "Treat Me Right", am I understanding correctly that the respective commercial 45 releases for these singles are different mixes than their LP counterparts and not simply early fades? If so, then it looks like Pat will need to make some corrections to the database because all CD appearances for these two songs are currently distinguished by "45 length" and "LP length". |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 04 May 2007 at 5:03pm
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I found the 45 mix of "Hit Me With Your Best Shot" on a 5-CD Australian box set called Pop Complete, EMI 7243 4 98604 2 1, released 1999.
The sound on some tracks is a little flat, as if they weren't using first-generation tapes, but none of the tracks are maximized (a.k.a. compressed/squashed - mastered too loud resulting in clipping). The track selection is outstanding - a nice collection of US hits, UK hits, and some Australian hits I've never heard before. Highly recommended. Also put out by EMI Australia in the 5-CD brick format: Seventies Complete (EMI 7243 8 14835 2 7, rel 1997) Seventies Complete Vol. 2 (EMI 7243 4 94552 2 1, rel 1999) Eighties Complete (EMI 7243 8 56761 2 3, rel 1997) - this one has the bells-only intro to Naked Eyes's "Always Something There To Remind Me"! Eighties Complete Vol. 2 (EMI 7243 4 99334 2 2, rel 1999) There may be more in the series. |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 7:24am
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i just listened to my commercial 45 of "treat me right" side by side to the cd version from "all fired up"....i don't hear any difference...
underground dub....can you please tell me what the differences are because they sound identical to me..... ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 7:45am
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another item.....the song "shadows of the night" actually runs 3:43 on the 45 while the 45 versions on cd run 3:40.....can the true 45 version be re-created by lengthing the fade out from the cd/lp version??....this slight oversight may be because the 45 label states a run time of 3:40.....maybe that's why the people who put the cd compilations together faded it to 3:40 and NOT the proper 3:43 length...they never listened to the 45 th verify it's true length... ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 28 July 2007 at 9:35am
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Ed:
I too wonder sometimes if the reason some 45 versions are faded early on CD is because of mastering engineers referencing an incorrect run time printed on the 45 label. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 01 August 2007 at 12:03pm
In this case, I'd say it's more likely that it was faded out three seconds early because there was some audible tape hiss at the end of the track. That's pretty standard on CDs, especially on older CDs. |
Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 04 August 2007 at 8:22pm
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Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 27 July 2009 at 9:51pm
| Bringing this topic up again as my 45 of "Treat Me Right" is not the remixed version found on "Greatest Hits" Capitol 78858 which is a slight remix. My version of "Treat Me Right" is a dj Chrysalis 2487, matrix number CHS-2487-AS-circle 1 and seems to be the same as every other cd appearance but "Greatest Hits". |
Posted By: budaniel
Date Posted: 28 July 2009 at 8:38am
| The ORIGINAL vinyl LP version of "We Live for Love" was a much more dance/new wave sounding mix without all the guitar riffs. It was swapped out pretty quickly for the guitar mix, and sadly has never appeared on CD. it's the version I much prefer over the version that was edited down for the single. I guess because Heartbreaker was such a hard rock song, they were concerned about releasing a follow-up single with no hard guitar licks in it. Chrysalis records seemed to like pulling that replacement mix game, because they did the same thing with Heart of Glass on the Parallel Lines LP, eventually replacing the original cut with the near 6 minute 'disco version'. |
Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 03 September 2009 at 4:10pm
Didn't Epic do that with Off the Wall by Jacko? Was it "Rock With You"? I have never heard another version of that song. Is it easy to find? I have two copies of "We Live for Love" on the "Heat of the Night" Album. Was the original mix the one with dribbly sounding guitar all the way through, and less front guitar and drum rolls prior to the verses? (hard to describe, but I like it the best). The replacement was very raunchy, and they used that on the 45 too. ------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Richmond Hill, Ontario) |
Posted By: budaniel
Date Posted: 04 September 2009 at 7:17am
| Yes Jody, that's the one. The popular mix with the 'raunchy' guitar even behind the verses was the replacement version. The original mix has that more pulsing sound, almost like a horse gallop rhythm. It's even mentioned in the liner notes of I think the synchronistic wanderings compilation, and when I read the actual reference to it, I was like, "so why didn't you include that obscure version on here???" |
Posted By: torcan
Date Posted: 04 September 2009 at 1:31pm
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It always surprises me when I hear of albums with a different mix of a track inserted. I know about the self-titled "Heart" album from 1985 and also the Pointer Sisters "Break Out" from 1984, but wouldn't that mean cutting brand new laquers for the whole album - they can't just replace a track that way can they?
Sorry...don't know much about how they actually press vinyl...seen a couple of quick 5-min pieces on it and that's all! |
Posted By: Roscoe
Date Posted: 04 September 2009 at 1:58pm
They would have to create a new laquer for each side that had a changed track. Was the Whitney Houston debut album a similar situation with "Greatest Love Of All"? I know on the CD version they replaced this song with the 45 version in later pressings, but I'm not sure about the vinyl. I bought the vinyl album very early in 1986 and it had the LP version of "Greatest Love". |
Posted By: budaniel
Date Posted: 04 September 2009 at 2:23pm
| they also replaced the original mix of Heart of Glass with the 5:50 "Disco mix" on Blondie's Parallel Lines. What I never understood about the Pointer Sisters release was, to release the album with I'm So Excited on it, they had to remove one of the other songs originally on the album! I can't even remember what it was called, but I'm just shocked that it wasn't included as a bonus track on the CD release. |
Posted By: 80smusicfreak
Date Posted: 04 September 2009 at 7:29pm
True. And it happened more often than most people realize, especially during the '80s. Some other examples that immediately come to mind where original songs were swapped out in favor of others while the albums were still on the charts, but not yet mentioned here: IRENE CARA - "What a Feelin'" (1983) SOUNDTRACK - "Beverly Hills Cop" (1984) AUTOGRAPH - "That's the Stuff" (1985) PSEUDO ECHO - "Love an Adventure" (1987) I have both pressings of all four of the above albums on cassette; all exist on vinyl LP as well. Joel Whitburn apparently doesn't even know about the Irene Cara album; his "Billboard Albums" book has always shown only the LATER 1984 pressing, even though it first charted in December of '83 w/ the original track list! The original pressings of the "BHC" soundtrack featured a Rick James song that had to be replaced for legal reasons. Oh, and the front cover art was also changed on the Autograph album... |
Posted By: anthology123
Date Posted: 26 March 2011 at 10:18am
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Has anyone here heard the Pat Benatar Ultimate collection and review if the
which versions are the true 45 versions, and how they sound? |
Posted By: Underground Dub
Date Posted: 26 March 2011 at 12:07pm
Here's a full list of the correct 45 versions that appear on Ultimate Collection (including LP versions that appeared on 45 releases)
We Live For Love ([Remix] Single Edit) You Better Run Treat Me Right ([Remix] Single Version) Fire And Ice Shadows Of The Night (Edit) Little Too Late (Edit) Looking For A Stranger Love Is A Battlefield (Edit) Ooh Ooh Song Invincible (Vocal Edit) Sex As A Weapon Le Bel Age (Edit) All Fired Up (Single Version) Don't Walk Away (Edit) Let's Stay Together (Edit) One Love (Edit) True Love Payin' The Cost To Be The Boss Everybody Lay Down (Edit) Somebody's Baby (Edit) Comparing this to 2005's Greatest Hits release, "We Live For Love" is the only top 40 hit whose 45 version (an early fade) is unique to Ultimate Collection. (The 45 length of "We Live For Love" was also previously available on 1994's All Fired Up: The Very Best Of Pat Benatar.) Instead of the full length LP version of "Promises In The Dark" (which is the correct 45 version), Ultimate Collection uses the promotional DJ Edit version. The full version does however appear on Greatest Hits. Unfortunately, this is yet another collection on which both "Hit Me With Your Best Shot" and "We Belong" appear as LP versions instead of the proper remixed 45 versions. My theory is that this is a simple, frustrating oversight. These are her only two special 45 mixes with a run time identical to the original LP versions. I assume that whoever assembles these sets looks for shorter run times to indicate edits and therefore overlook these two. Regarding the sound on this, it's LOUD but surprisingly doesn't sound bad to me. For the (extremely) long answer here's a post from another forum:
Hope this helped! :) |
Posted By: Bill Cahill
Date Posted: 20 September 2012 at 5:11am
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This string notes "Album Version" on "Treat Me Right". I don't hear any difference on the 45, except that maybe the DJ 45 accidently only used the right channel on the mono side of the record (right channel only in mono)
Does anybody have any reason to note that "Treat Me Right" has a "single" version? |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 12 February 2013 at 9:45am
| For some reason, the database doesn't indicate that "Shadows of the Night" is on Pat's "Classic Masters" CD. I was wondering if this CD has the single or album version of the song, as I was thinking of buying it. Can anyone who has the CD tell me? Thanks. |
Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 13 February 2013 at 9:37am
| "Shadows Of The Night" is not on my copy of Classic Masters Capitol 41797. |
Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 13 February 2013 at 10:51am
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That disc has a dozen tracks but "Shadows Of The Night" is
not one of them. ------------- Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida |
Posted By: Indy500
Date Posted: 18 March 2013 at 3:21pm
| There's another domestic greatest hits collection out, one of those ICON sets. They tend to be pretty boring but maybe there will be a surprise. |
Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 07 January 2016 at 7:29pm
------------- Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida |
Posted By: Ron S
Date Posted: 21 August 2018 at 3:39pm
| We Belong-Single Version is on the Deadpool 2 Soundtrack |
Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 21 August 2018 at 6:57pm
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Now that this thread has come back up I always meant to ask if the LP version and 45 single version of "Looking For A Stranger" are one in the same? The song is not in the database so just wanted to confirm this info. Thanks in advance. ------------- Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida |
Posted By: Underground Dub
Date Posted: 21 August 2018 at 8:04pm
I'm not sure if the Deadpool 2 CD matches streaming services, but "We Belong - Single Version" from Deadpool 2 on Spotify, etc. plays the album version. |
Posted By: NightAire
Date Posted: 21 March 2020 at 10:13pm
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I don't feel like "Treat Me Right" was ever settled.
Is the original 7" 45 RPM record a remix or an early fade of the LP mix? IF the correct single version is a remix, is it only available on 2005's "Greatest Hits?" ------------- Gene Savage http://www.BlackLightRadio.com - http://www.BlackLightRadio.com http://www.facebook.com/TulsaSavage - http://www.facebook.com/TulsaSavage Tulsa, Oklahoma USA |
Posted By: LunarLaugh
Date Posted: 22 March 2020 at 7:41pm
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The version of "We Belong" on CEMA Special Products'
budget disc of Blondie/Pat Benetar "Back To Back Hits" is the one with Pat vocalizing over the introduction. All the other CDs I have it on have a clean intro with no vocals. Would this be the single mix? ------------- https://thelunarlaugh.bandcamp.com/ - Listen to The Lunar Laugh! |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 22 March 2020 at 10:14pm
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According to notes in my archive, the vocal over the intro
is the 45 mix. The instrumental beginning is the LP mix. I have only ever heard the 45 mix/version. ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: VWestlife
Date Posted: 07 April 2021 at 11:07am
It's the opposite for me -- I've only ever heard the LP version of "We Belong" played on the radio, because the vocals at the very beginning of the 45 version makes it awkward for the DJ to segue it with a previous song and/or talk over the intro. Songs with "cold open" vocals are often edited, remixed, or rearranged for radio airplay due to this reason. |
Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 03 October 2021 at 8:30am
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I can report that I have found a domestic cd with the 45
version of "Hit Me With Your Best Shot". It is on a My Music TJ Lubinsky cd titled "The '80s Volume 1". |
Posted By: Paul C
Date Posted: 03 October 2021 at 9:16am
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I don't know in how many other countries the US 45 version
of "Hit Me With Your Best Shot" was issued. I have the Spanish 45 and it's the LP version. |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 04 October 2021 at 5:31am
Not sure what you mean by that, there have been plenty of singles/radio edits with cold intros, including some that the cold intro only exists on promo copies. Not sure why the vocals were left off the LP version of the song, to this day that version doesn't sound right to me. During the song's chart run I heard the 45 version on most CHRs, AOR stations played the LP. As years went by the LP version prevailed, probably because it was easier to obtain/was included in gold libraries (ie-GoldDiscs, etc.). |