Gonzalez - Havent Stopped Dancing Yet
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Topic: Gonzalez - Havent Stopped Dancing Yet
Posted By: Roscoe
Subject: Gonzalez - Havent Stopped Dancing Yet
Date Posted: 24 July 2006 at 6:02pm
I only have one of the CDs listed in the database with Gonzalez's "Haven't Stopped Dancing Yet" (Lost & Found in the Seventies - Disco). The database lists the version on that CD as the 45 version.
However, my actual 45 is substantially different than the version on this CD. The 45 is a completely different mix, and the vocals don't start until :24 in, versus the :11 mark on the Lost & Found CD. I don't have the LP version of this song, so I have no idea what the version on the CD is. But it looks like the database entries for this song need to be revisited.
Has anyone else compared the 45 of this song to the other entries in the database?
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Posted By: cmmmbase
Date Posted: 24 July 2006 at 6:39pm
there are 2 different 45s each with a different mix.
the one on Capitol 4647 "bubbled under" at #106, while a later mix on Capitol 4674 was the hit version and made the top 40.
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Posted By: Roscoe
Date Posted: 24 July 2006 at 6:42pm
cmmmbase wrote:
there are 2 different 45s each with a different mix.
the one on Capitol 4647 "bubbled under" at #106, while a later mix on Capitol 4674 was the hit version and made the top 40. |
Good info, thanks! My 45 is Capitol 4674 and definitely matches what I remember from the radio, so it appears I have the "hit" version. Maybe the ones listed in the database are the earlier, non-hit 45 version?
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 24 July 2006 at 9:34pm
Do any of the CDs contain the hit version?
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Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 26 July 2006 at 6:39am
Good catch here gang. Yes my orginal entry in the database was based on my dj 45 which is Capitol 4647 and not Capitol 4674. The database has been corrected and to answer the question of do any cd's contain the hit 45 version the answer is no.
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Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 26 July 2006 at 7:31am
the 45 i have #4674 is identical to a cdr copy of the song i have......but faded out to the 3:45 mark.....i don't know where i got it, but they are identical except for the fade-out....
------------- edtop40
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 26 July 2006 at 8:38am
The CD I have this song on is called "Haven't Stopped Dancing Yet", a various artist comp on CEMA Special Products (if I recall) and clocks in at 3:42. Pat's book doesn't list this CD at all, so I'm not sure which version this is but it clocks in at the same time as all other CD versions, so it's probably the album version. Can anyone with the "hit version" 45 ( Capitol 4674 ) tell us how long that 45 is?
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Posted By: Roscoe
Date Posted: 26 July 2006 at 12:27pm
EdisonLite wrote:
The CD I have this song on is called "Haven't Stopped Dancing Yet", a various artist comp on CEMA Special Products (if I recall) and clocks in at 3:42. Pat's book doesn't list this CD at all, so I'm not sure which version this is but it clocks in at the same time as all other CD versions, so it's probably the album version. Can anyone with the "hit version" 45 ( Capitol 4674 ) tell us how long that 45 is? |
The hit 45 version runs 3:46.
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 18 December 2006 at 1:13am
Does anyone know if the "hit" version (Capitol 4674) of "Haven't Stopped Dancing Yet" is available on any import CDs?
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Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 15 November 2007 at 3:13pm
As if this song needs any more twists, I just received my stock copy of the Capitol 4674 "hit" version. But unlike Ed's and Roscoe's stock copies, my commercial 45 has a listed time of (3:45), but an actual time of (4:56)! My copy's deadwax info is "S45-60020 D G-5". I remember, at one point back in the 80's, a local record shop (of which I was a regular, of course) asked me if I happened to have a "great shape" 12" single for this song. I told them that I did, and they immediately offered me $100 for it! The 12" single is where the "hit" remix version was edited from. Luckily, I didn't sell, and I've still got that 12". I think that was the only time a retail store ever asked ME if I had a used copy (LONG before used bins became popular) of a specific version of a song; no doubt for another good customer...
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 20 December 2007 at 1:54am
I just did a comparison of the hit (3:45) version on Ed's stock 45 versus the (4:56) version on Jim's stock 45. The (3:45) version is an early fade of the (4:56) version.
Does anyone own the 54, Vol. 2 soundtrack who can verify if that "neither" version running (4:48) might actually be the longer 45 version, but faded early? I listened to a song sample online, and it is the correct mix on that CD.
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 20 December 2007 at 7:29am
That would be great news if the single mix is actually available on CD and all we have to do is fade this 4:48 version on "54, vol. 2" to 3:45. Does Pat or anyone have this CD to verify?
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 16 April 2008 at 9:41pm
I just wanted to bring this thread back and see if anyone has the "54, vol. 2" CD. (Pat?) Is the version on this CD simply "longer than the hit 45 version"?
Also, was there ever a Gonzalez LP, and which version exactly was on it?
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Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 16 April 2008 at 9:59pm
Just bought the track from 54, Vol. 2. Dropped a 45 dub I have and the track from 54 into the multi-tracker. With some fancy editing, it may be able to be recreated from the 54 version. I'll report back if I have any success.
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 16 April 2008 at 11:21pm
I should've reported on this a while back. The version on 54, Vol. 2 is a combo of both mixes. The part of the song using the correct mix is dubbed straight off the vinyl and you can tell. Sorry to bring disappointing news.
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Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 16 April 2008 at 11:34pm
Aaron, I'll email you my edits from the 54 version. It's pretty darn close. :)
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 17 April 2008 at 12:08am
Wow, that's strange. So Aaron, are you saying the version on 54 vol. 2 uses BOTH the hit mix from vinyl AND the original mix from master tape and makes a brand new edit that does not match anything previously existing like the 12" version or an LP version?
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Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 17 April 2008 at 5:59am
What is the label, catalog number and precise title of this cd being referenced as 54 Vol. 2?
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Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 17 April 2008 at 9:00am
Pat Downey wrote:
What is the label, catalog number and precise title of this cd being referenced as 54 Vol. 2? |
Pat, the precise title is 54 - Volume 2 on Tommy Boy 1294. It was the second volume soundtrack to the 1998 movie 54 about Studio 54 in New York.
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Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 18 April 2008 at 1:50pm
Hi folks,
Gordon, just to answer your question about the Gonzalez LP - there were also 2 LP's.
I used to own both.
The first one in '78 was called "Shipwreck" and contained the original mix.
After the 12" version made the song a hit and they re-issued the 45 with the edit of the 12" single mix, the album was re-issued with the 12" mix as the LP version and titled "Haven't Stopped Dancin" - this is the LP i kept.
-MM
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 19 April 2008 at 12:11am
EdisonLite wrote:
Wow, that's strange. So Aaron, are you saying the version on 54 vol. 2 uses BOTH the hit mix from vinyl AND the original mix from master tape and makes a brand new edit that does not match anything previously existing like the 12" version or an LP version? |
That's what it sounds like to me, Gordon. What I hear is the following:
hit mix from 0:00 to 0:57 (sounds like vinyl)
original mix from 0:57 to 3:21 (sounds like CD; volume significantly louder)
hit mix from 3:21 to end (definitely vinyl)
The original is easy to spot since there's no tambourine in the right channel, and there certainly isn't one from 0:57 to 3:21.
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 19 April 2008 at 1:09am
Wow, that's bizarre. I mean - why would anyone bother to do that particular edit??
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Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 19 April 2008 at 9:04am
Wow, this is wild...
I just went on a peer-to-peer site and downloaded a (labeled) extended version of "Haven't Stopped Dancing Yet" (8:02) and SURE ENOUGH the 'meat' of the song is the lame original mix while the rest is a vinyl version of the John Luongo extended mix with Jimmy Maelen's extra percussion!
Andy
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Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 18 February 2009 at 7:43pm
Working my way backwards through 1979, and I thought this track would be a piece of cake, since I have the 45 and five CDs that have the song.
Well, as you can see by this thread, not so easy.
I, too, have the 45 that runs 4:57. It's got the same matrix number as labeled above, with an all-red Capitol label, and a printed time of 3:45. It's got a credit of "Additional Editing & Mixing by John Luongo", so it's definitely edited down from a 12" version. It's also got a 1977 copyright date. Can't tell if the Luongo mix was made in 1977 or in 1978/79 when the song was a US hit.
(It says "Recorded in England" and is written/co-produced by Gloria Jones - is this the same Gloria Jones who was Marc Bolan's girlfriend and recorded the original "Tainted Love"?)
The non-Luongo mix is easy to identify - there's no shaky tambourine anywhere in the song.
This mix turns up on:- EMI Australia's Seventies Complete Vol. 2 (5-CD set, 1999, runs 3:53, best-sounding of the bunch)
- Disky EU's Greatest Hits Of The 70's (8-CD set, 2000, runs 4:08, clips a lot, copyright date of 1979, for what it's worth)
- Disky EU's Wow That Was The 70's (8-CD set, 1999, runs 3:51, also has copyright date of 1979, sound horribly maximized - bleh!)
The John Luongo mix is easy to spot, due to the prominent shaky tambourine in the right channel. This mix does turn up on a CD:- PolyGram Australia's The No. 1 Seventies Album (2-CD set, PolyGram 5657462, 1998, runs 4:20, copyright date of 1979 on inside booklet, "hit" chart date of 1977 on back cover)
The intro and outro on this Australian CD are different from the 45, but the guts of the song is indeed the same. The portion of the 45 from 0:23 to 3:32 is on the CD version from 0:51 to 4:00. The CD intro sounds like the backing track to the chorus and one verse, rather than a 12"-style breakdown with whistling, like on the 45.
I remember the song having a tambourine from when I heard it on the air in 1979, but beyond that I can't remember which would have been the "hit" version - the 4:57 Luongo-mix 45 I have or an early fade of the Luongo-mix that runs 3:58. Plus, I don't know which would have been the "hit" anywhere else in the world. The 4:57 45 is kinda flat-sounding with not a lot of bass, probably due to the long running time, so I'm using the Australian Luongo-mix CD as my preferred version.
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Posted By: Roscoe
Date Posted: 18 February 2009 at 8:11pm
crapfromthepast wrote:
The John Luongo mix is easy to spot, due to the prominent shaky tambourine in the right channel. This mix does turn up on a CD:- PolyGram Australia's The No. 1 Seventies Album (2-CD set, PolyGram 5657462, 1998, runs 4:20, copyright date of 1979 on inside booklet, "hit" chart date of 1977 on back cover)
The intro and outro on this Australian CD are different from the 45, but the guts of the song is indeed the same. The portion of the 45 from 0:23 to 3:32 is on the CD version from 0:51 to 4:00. The CD intro sounds like the backing track to the chorus and one verse, rather than a 12"-style breakdown with whistling, like on the 45.
I remember the song having a tambourine from when I heard it on the air in 1979, but beyond that I can't remember which would have been the "hit" version - the 4:57 Luongo-mix 45 I have or an early fade of the Luongo-mix that runs 3:58. Plus, I don't know which would have been the "hit" anywhere else in the world. The 4:57 45 is kinda flat-sounding with not a lot of bass, probably due to the long running time, so I'm using the Australian Luongo-mix CD as my preferred version. |
I had no idea what a can of worms this song would turn out to be when I started this thread back in 2006!
Based on the feedback in this thread, the hit version is a remix by Luongo, with some 45s running 4:56 and others fading early at 3:45.
But it sounds like the Australian CD you reference above does not contain the complete "long" hit mix.
Do you know if the hit 45 version running 3:45 can be extracted from the Australian CD?
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Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 18 February 2009 at 9:30pm
Roscoe wrote:
But it sounds like the Australian CD you reference above does not contain the complete "long" hit mix.
Do you know if the hit 45 version running 3:45 can be extracted from the Australian CD? |
If the 3:45 45 is truly an early fade of the 4:57 45, then no, it can't be recreated. The 45 intro isn't on the Australian CD.
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Posted By: Roscoe
Date Posted: 18 February 2009 at 9:55pm
crapfromthepast wrote:
Roscoe wrote:
But it sounds like the Australian CD you reference above does not contain the complete "long" hit mix.
Do you know if the hit 45 version running 3:45 can be extracted from the Australian CD? |
If the 3:45 45 is truly an early fade of the 4:57 45, then no, it can't be recreated. The 45 intro isn't on the Australian CD. |
Bummer. Looks like I'll have to stick with my needledrop.
BTW, my 45 also has a somewhat soft sound. The mix may be soft, but even in the old vinyl days they would usually punch it up a bit in the mastering for a disco song like this one. I don't usually EQ my needledrops but I may give this one a bit of a bass & treble boost.
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 19 February 2009 at 3:15am
Crapfromthepast: Would it be possible to send me a WAV of the "PolyGram Australia's The No. 1 Seventies Album" version (via YouSendIt.com or pando.com), so I can take that version and edit in the intro from a very clean vinyl version I got from MMathews (who sent me a WAV of his hit 45 version taken from his 12"). I remember it being very clean. This would mean I can create a version that's all from CD except the first 23 seconds (which will be from very clean vinyl) and this may be the closest thing we'll ever have to a CD version of the hit version. (And if you want to hear my results, just let me know.)
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 20 February 2009 at 1:45pm
I've been trying to create the hit single version of "Haven't Stopped" - using as much as I can from CD sources. Ron G sent me this Australian version which contains the hit single mix from 0:23 to 3:32, but the remainder of the 45, 3:32 to 3:46 CANNOT be gotten by using/editing previous sections of this version. So....I see the database lists the 12" version (all of which, I assume, can be edited into the hit single -- or maybe just the "post-3:32" section can), and that it's on 2 Thump CDs: (1) Latin Disco and (2) Dance Freak & Boogie box set. So can the "post-3:32 section" be found on this 7:33 version on the Thump CDs? And is the hit single intro on there as well? If either the intro or outro is on there, could someone please send a WAV? Thanks.
And one last question, does this 7:33 version ALSO contain certain sections from vinyl, as do previously-mentioned longer versions of this song? I guess the big question is: can the hit single mix be created from any CD (or combo of CDs), without using vinyl or CD sections that came from vinyl?! And has anyone already done this?
This is becoming one of the strangest single mixes to acquire!
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 21 February 2009 at 10:12am
One last question about the version on the Australian CD: Does anyone know if this is the Australian single mix? And are the first 51 seconds unique to only that recording?
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 23 February 2009 at 11:45am
I was about to buy the Thump CD with the 12" hit single mix (minus the last 27 seconds) clocking in at 7:33 AND THEN I READ THIS:
Andrew C writes:
<Wow, this is wild...
I just went on a peer-to-peer site and downloaded a (labeled) extended version of "Haven't Stopped Dancing Yet" (8:02) and SURE ENOUGH the 'meat' of the song is the lame original mix while the rest is a vinyl version of the John Luongo extended mix>
Wow, this is even wilder! I'm a little concerned that the Thump CD will be the same as this digital 8:02 version faded 27 seconds early, which would mean that the 7:33 version on Thump contains PARTS of the original mix. So Pat, can you check your Thump CD and compare it to your 12" vinyl and make sure it really doesn't contain the original mix in certain segments. (Or if you don't have the desire, can you send me an mp3 of one of the Thump CDs so I can very it's the remix all the way through, before I purchase the CD)?
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Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 23 February 2009 at 7:40pm
Well I can only confuse matters even more but let me preface this first with the fact that I only have the original 45 in my collection and not the hit Capitol 4674 remix version.
My 12" single is a dj SPRO-8984 and it states additional editing and mixing by John Luongo and runs (8:00). The version on the Thump cd's is fairly close to this vinyl 12" single but the Thump cd's are mixed slightly differently with some instruments such as the horns mixed lower on the 12" single and yes the Thump cd's are just an early fade of this 12" single.
However, this 12" single is not the version found on my copy of the "Haven't Stopped Dancing Yet" vinyl LP and MMathews says in an earlier post that his 12" single is the version found on this vinyl LP. So I am wondering if there were two 12" single versions!
Per EdisonLite's request, I will send an mp3 of the Thump version for his examination.
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 24 February 2009 at 2:00am
Pat says:
<However, this 12" single is not the version found on my copy of the "Haven't Stopped Dancing Yet" vinyl LP and MMathews says in an earlier post that his 12" single is the version found on this vinyl LP. So I am wondering if there were two 12" single versions! >
MMathews says there were 2 releases of the "Haven't Stopped Dancing Yet" LP - the 1st release contains the original single (non-hit) mix, and the 2nd release contains the 12" remix, according to him. So the fact that your actual 12" single doesn't match your LP - I don't think it's a case of there being 2 12" versions necessarily, but rather that you have the original LP (with original non-hit single mix) and not the 2nd pressing of the LP.
So hopefully, this will clear up the confusion, and I suspect there are not TWO versions of the 12" remix.
On the other hand, you bring up another point -- that this mix on Thump is slightly different than the mix on the original 12" - which WOULD suggest there are 2 versions of this 8-minute remix -- unless it's more a case of the way Thump re-EQ'd and compressed the file. That could have altered the "sense" of how loud the horns are.
Looking forward to your mp3 of the Thump CD. It will be interesting to see also if they have segments from vinyl, too.
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 24 February 2009 at 5:31am
I just discovered that there is a CD with the correct, full 12" mix. It's called Grand 12" Inches (vol. 1), and it's an import on Sony. I cannot say for sure if it's a vinyl dub or not, but the listed run time is 7:59.
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 24 February 2009 at 6:48pm
Pat Downey wrote:
The version on the Thump cd's is fairly close to this vinyl 12" single but the Thump cd's are mixed slightly differently with some instruments such as the horns mixed lower on the 12" single and yes the Thump cd's are just an early fade of this 12" single. |
Pat, the reason you are hearing mix differences on the Thump CD is because they have edited in part of the original mix. The notation for this CD should probably be "neither." Also, the sections that do match the 12" single are taken from vinyl.
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Posted By: Steve Sharp
Date Posted: 25 February 2009 at 1:21am
aaronk wrote:
I just discovered that there is a CD with the correct, full 12" mix. It's called Grand 12" Inches (vol. 1), and it's an import on Sony. I cannot say for sure if it's a vinyl dub or not, but the listed run time is 7:59. |
The Grand 12 inches series are meticulously compiled and mastered by Dutch club D.J. Ben Liebrand. I have most of these cd sets, and only a couple of tracks on them were mastered from vinyl, and it's noted when they are. Based on this, I'm relatively certain this version derives from a better source.
I have an import cd single of "Haven't Stopped Dancin' Yet" from Unidisc Canada, from the "12 inches on cd" collection of cd5s, but I don't recall if there's a short version on it as well. I can look, if anyone's interested.
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 25 February 2009 at 10:10am
Yes, Steve, I'm interested in both the short version, and if the long version is the 12" remix version that can be edited to be the single.
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Posted By: Steve Sharp
Date Posted: 25 February 2009 at 2:36pm
Here's what I've got. 2 songs by two totally unrelated artists on a Unidisc Canada cd5:
No single edit on it, but a digital master of the full 12" mix at 8:02. Give me your preference of file type and/or bitrate and an email address large enough to hold it, and you can have a listen to mine.
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 01 March 2009 at 1:11pm
Thanks to Steve, I was able to hear the 12" version from his Unidisc CD. Unfortunately, this is the same butchered version that keeps popping up elsewhere. The beginning and end are taken from vinyl, while the middle section is the non-hit version from CD source. Bummer!
Steve, I wonder if your Grand 12" Inches CD actually has it right.
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Posted By: Steve Sharp
Date Posted: 02 March 2009 at 1:11am
Really? Let me look for the Liebrand cds.
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 03 March 2009 at 6:28am
Steve & Aaron, I'd be curious to know what you find on the "Grand 12 Inches" CD - the butchered version or the original 12" remix from master tape.
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Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 03 March 2009 at 6:39am
Hi
I'm watching this one to see what develops. I never would have dreamed 30 years ago that this one little ditty would be such an issue getting the hit mix on CD. Go figure.
Ron, to answer your above Q, yes, that is the same Gloria Jones that recorded the original "Tainted Love" (and infamous girlfriend of Marc Bolan).
And, she owns the rights to the Gonzalez recordings, but obviously not the masters.
Too bad, the master tape for this 12" remix (and hit 45 edit) is sitting somewhere in a Capitol/EMI vault collecting dust and glueing itself together as we speak.
As a side note, i have a friend who once a had a long chat with John Luongo, and John told him he has master copies of every remix he's ever done. I wish he had kept in touch!
-MM
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Posted By: Steve Sharp
Date Posted: 03 March 2009 at 10:57am
I've forwarded a file for Aaron to review, and await his report on it.
Edison and MMathews, PM me your email addresses, and I'll forward to you as well, provided you report back on what you make of it.
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 03 March 2009 at 6:52pm
Well, the Grand 12 Inches comp has the full 12" version; however, it is completely from vinyl. Unfortunately, the sound quality of the transfer isn't the best, either. Sorry I couldn't bring better news.
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Posted By: Steve Sharp
Date Posted: 03 March 2009 at 7:33pm
Well.. that's disappointing.
Which is better: the cd single, or the Grand 12 icnhes?
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Posted By: Steve Sharp
Date Posted: 03 March 2009 at 8:55pm
If anyone knows how to get ahold of John Luongo, please let us know!
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 03 March 2009 at 9:42pm
Does anyone know what city/state John Luongo lives in? Maybe someone could look him up and call him!
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 27 December 2009 at 11:33am
Since someone pointed out all the new iTunes discoveries today, I thought I'd do a search on "Haven't Stopped Dancin' Yet". I found a Gonzalez CD called "Our Only Weapon Is Our Music" and it contains a version of "Haven't Stopped Dancin' Yet" called "Hit Single Version" which is a bonus track. Of course, they could mean the first single version, but the fact that they go out of their way NOT to label this as "single version" but "hit single version" makes me wonder if they actually knew what they were talking about. Can anyone who's real familiar with the hit single version check out the 30 second snippet on iTunes and report back if it's really the hit single mix that many of us are looking for?
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 27 December 2009 at 11:41am
I just checked, and it's not the hit single mix. Interestingly, the 12" mix is on iTunes, which can be edited to create the single version; however, I can hear clicks and pops in the 30 second snippet. It's taken from vinyl, without question.
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 06 July 2010 at 2:39am
Bringing back an old thread - We've discussed the ongoing issues of this song in 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 ... and now 2010! And btw, if you read this thread from the beginning, I think this song and its versions on vinyl & CD have to rank as perhaps the most confusing/complex thread that's ever appeared on this board!
I thought I'd create a playlist of my favorite disco songs, but their long versions. Usually I collect just the single versions of disco songs, but for some reason, right now I feel like getting the longer versions. After all, the disco format, more than any other format except perhaps classic rock, tended to lend itself toward longer versions.
So my question is - Are there any CDs -import or domestic- that contain a version of "Haven't Stopped Dancin' Yet" that is longer than the 3:42 single edit AND COMPLETELY FROM A TAPE SOURCE? It seems like all these near-8 minute versions (or 5-minute) are either from a combo of tape & vinyl, or purely vinyl. So I'm wondering if this song has any LONG version completely from tape. It will probably only show up on an import, if at all.
Does anyone know? (And Aaron, you're quite an expert on this song so I hope you have input as well. :)
And Pat, on the 2 Thump versions in the database, can you add that "portions of this recording are taken from vinyl" as many people have confirmed -- I almost bought the Thump CD, but luckily, I decided to read through all these posts tonight and realized I should stay away from this CD after everyone posted it's mostly from vinyl.
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 06 July 2010 at 9:35am
I haven't actually checked all the CDs that contain a long 8:00 mix, because I'm afraid I'll just be wasting my money on CDs with vinyl dubs. I've collected several CDs over the years with extended mixes, including some from Rhino and other major labels. Even the big labels have often times taken those 12" mixes directly from vinyl.
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Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 08 July 2010 at 2:44pm
I'll agree with Edison, this is definitely one of the most complex and frustrating hits of the top 40 era. Never would have thunk it back then.
Btw, sorry i never went back to this thread after my old post, so i missed some replies afterward.
Hey, for all the above folks who are still looking for a decent clean/clear copy of the long hit mix (from which the 45 can edited):
The hit 12" mix was released 2 ways, on the 12" which all copies i've heard tend to be grungy sounding because the grooves were spanned across the whole record, and most copies got the abuse of lots of DJ play.
But they also put it on re-issued version of the Capitol LP "Haven't Stopped Dancin". It was the first track on a very good quality vinyl LP, therefore clean all the way thru. I own a mint copy, and have dubbed and cleaned it.
Anyone who'd like a wav file (via one of those upload svcs) send me a PM and i'll be happy to send.
Mine is the cleanest i've ever heard it. All the above mentioned copies for sale on various cd's and I-tunes, i've heard, and sound terrible.
-MM
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Posted By: Roscoe
Date Posted: 08 July 2010 at 5:09pm
MMathews wrote:
I'll agree with Edison, this is definitely one of the most complex and frustrating hits of the top 40 era. Never would have thunk it back then.
Btw, sorry i never went back to this thread after my old post, so i missed some replies afterward.
Hey, for all the above folks who are still looking for a decent clean/clear copy of the long hit mix (from which the 45 can edited):
The hit 12" mix was released 2 ways, on the 12" which all copies i've heard tend to be grungy sounding because the grooves were spanned across the whole record, and most copies got the abuse of lots of DJ play.
But they also put it on re-issued version of the Capitol LP "Haven't Stopped Dancin". It was the first track on a very good quality vinyl LP, therefore clean all the way thru. I own a mint copy, and have dubbed and cleaned it.
Anyone who'd like a wav file (via one of those upload svcs) send me a PM and i'll be happy to send.
Mine is the cleanest i've ever heard it. All the above mentioned copies for sale on various cd's and I-tunes, i've heard, and sound terrible.
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That's disappointing that the 12" vinyl sounds bad, as that is usually the primo source in terms of sound quality (many 12" vinyl transfers I have done sound as good or better than CD sources).
But that's encouraging news on the reissue LP. Do you happen to have the matrix number of that LP? I may try to track one down myself.
I'm not even sure why I care anymore, because I never had strong feelings about this song one way or another (although it is a fun little disco tune). Guess the completist in me just has to have something better than my soft-sounding 45 needledrop.
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Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 23 May 2011 at 7:55pm
very odd....my commercial 45 issued as capitol 4674 states a run time of 3:45 but actually runs 3:43...i have a 4:08 version on cdr that is identical to the 45 version except faded for 0:12 from 3:31 to 3:43....the sound quality is great....if anyone wants a copy of this version, let me know and i will shoot it out for your review....the etching in the run out groove of the vinyl 45 is "s45 x60020a f2"
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Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 24 May 2011 at 12:24pm
i just checked allmusic.com and there are quite a few imports that contain a 4:10-4:13 version of the song.....my guess is that is where i got my cdr from years ago.....the db doesn't show any of these because they're imports, but there out there....
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 24 May 2011 at 7:17pm
Ed just sent me a dub of his 45, and this is the non-hit mix. So, apparently, some copies on Capitol 4674 were pressed with the earlier mix. Interesting!
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 24 May 2011 at 8:34pm
I went back and read the earlier posts in the thread, and it looks like
Ed sent me a dub of his 45 several years ago, too; however, the dub
he sent back then is not the dub he sent this time. Ed, do you have
two 45s for this one?
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Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 25 May 2011 at 6:40am
i don't think so........but to make sure i will go back and check my doubles boxes and see if i have a duplicate......my guess is that's the only one i have........
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 26 May 2011 at 7:05am
Perhaps, then, the dub I received several years ago wasn't from you. There's no mistaking the original, non-hit mix with the shorter hit version. I wouldn't have been able come to my earlier conclusion without having a dub of the shorter hit version, which I determined is an early fade of the longer one.
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Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 20 October 2011 at 7:17pm
edtop40 wrote:
very odd....my commercial 45 issued as capitol 4674 states a run time of 3:45 but actually runs 3:43...i have a 4:08 version on cdr that is identical to the 45 version except faded for 0:12 from 3:31 to 3:43....the sound quality is great....if anyone wants a copy of this version, let me know and i will shoot it out for your review....the etching in the run out groove of the vinyl 45 is "s45 x60020a f2" |
Ed:
Does your 45 say S-X60020D on the left side under the 4674? My 45 does have that number printed under the word STEREO plus the etching I have on mine is S45 X60020D F2.
------------- Santi Paradoa
Miami, Florida
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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 22 September 2012 at 8:26pm
Sorry to dredge up this thread for a seventh(!) consecutive year, but my head is spinning trying to keep all the versions of Gonzalez' "Haven't Stopped Dancin' Yet" straight. So I thought I'd try to compile a summary here. (Any additional input or corrections are welcome.)
==> original non-hit 45 version - 3:43
==> 12" single version [remixed by John Luongo] - 8:02
==> hit long 45 version [which is an edit of the 12" version] - 4:56
==> hit short 45 version [which is an early fade of the long 45 version length] - 3:45
==> Shipwreck vinyl LP version [which is the same mix as the original non-hit 45 version, but longer] - 4:15-4:20?
==> Haven't Stopped Dancin' vinyl LP version [which is the same as the 12" single version and therefore the hit mix] - 8:02?
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Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 22 September 2012 at 11:18pm
That's just about right, Todd - only thing different is
the original mix's 45 and LP versions were different. The
"Shipwrecked" LP version, from memory, was about 4:15 -
4:20 approx. I don't recall if an edit or early fade for
the 45 though.
But everything for the remix / hit version shown above is
spot on.
MM
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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 23 September 2012 at 11:07am
Thanks for the info, Mark. I went back to my previous post and updated my summary list accordingly.
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 14 January 2013 at 9:24pm
Todd Ireland wrote:
Sorry to dredge up this thread for a seventh(!) consecutive year |
And now to bring up this thread for an eighth (!) consecutive year ... on the elusive single mix of "Haven't Stopped Dancin' Yet" ...
Well, I have GREAT news and some closure to this topic. Gold Legion Records has released the 12" mix of Gonzalez' "Haven't Stopped Dancing Yet" (the mix that was used and edited down to become the hit single version), and in even better news, it's from master tape!! First time ever. And it's fully the correct 12" mix, not the weird, edited from the hit and non-hit mixes version that someone put together, or the partially-vinyl, partially-tape mixes that have shown up.
The CD is a various artist disco collection containing 12" mixes of 11 songs (which take up virtually 80 minutes) titled "Disco Discography Vol. 1". For those who want to buy this CD, here are the links:
Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Disco-Discography-Vol-Two-Tons/dp/B006 ASDYXQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1358223104&sr=1-1&keyw ords=disco+discography
Gold Legion (where it's on sale):
http://www.shop.goldlegion.com/
I edited down the 12" mix to the hit single mix tonight! Sounds great!! I bought "Haven't Stopped Dancin' Yet" on CD 23 years ago (not knowing any better) ... who knew it would take this long until anyone could have the actual hit mix on CD?!
The funny thing is this CD came out in 2011. But I guess no one was willing to take the risk, with all those other 12" versions of this song surfacing on CD from vinyl, or that weird combo-mix nightmare. I was very reluctant to buy this CD for fear it would be from vinyl. So I was shocked when I listened closely on headphones and realized someone actually got EMI to go into the vaults and get the right mix!
That's one more '70s hit I can cross of my CD want list! Yay! Now if only someone will release Stallion's "Old Fashioned Boy" and Al Wilson's "I've Got a Feeling" from master tape!!
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Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 17 February 2013 at 6:17pm
This is excellent news Gordon. I just got my copy of the
Gold Legion disc and I'm happy to finally get the correct
hit 12"/LP version on CD (from master tape). By the way, I
counted three different deadwax info upthread for the
Capitol 4674 45 single. Jim has "S45-60020 D G-5" and runs
(4:56), Ed has "S45 X60020A F2" and runs (3:43) and I have
"S45 X60020D F2" and runs (4:56) (got my copy in Miami in
early 1979).
------------- Santi Paradoa
Miami, Florida
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Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 28 March 2013 at 1:59pm
The 1979 promo video for the hit version is on youtube.
I noticed instead of using the short hit 45 for the
video, they used the 4:56 version, but edited out one
verse.
Some trivia;
Recently i also discovered the lead vocal on this song is
by British session singer Lenny Zakatek. He also appears
in the above-mentioned video.
We also know Lenny's lead vocals from these Alan Parson's
Project hits:
"I Wouldn't Want to Be Like You",
"Damned If I Do", and "Games People Play".
He appears in the videos for these songs as well.
Cool, huh? Sorta like another Tony Burrows.
MM
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Posted By: Plastic Steel
Date Posted: 28 February 2016 at 4:54pm
edtop40 wrote:
i just checked allmusic.com and there are quite a few imports that contain a 4:10-4:13 version of the song.....my guess is that is where i got my cdr from years ago.....the db doesn't show any of these because they're imports, but there out there.... |
I believe this song's thread should be used as an initiation for all new members to weigh in on. If you can sort this one out, you'll make it into the club.
I'm going with the assumption that if I fade the 4:10-ish version (that often shows up as the single version outside North America) 27 or so seconds early to 3:43, I'll have the short "hit" version (Capitol 4674). That is, if I'm reading this right.
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Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 28 February 2016 at 5:58pm
Hi Plastic! Welcome to the board! Actually I'm sorry to
tell you the 4:10 version Ed describes is not the hit mix.
To date the only CD appearance worldwide of the hit mix
from master tape is the above mentioned Gold Legion CD.
It contains the full 12" single which can be edited down
to the hit 45 version. MM
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Posted By: Plastic Steel
Date Posted: 28 February 2016 at 6:42pm
Ah, gotcha. Welp. OK, thanks.
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