Carpenters - Yesterday Once More
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Topic: Carpenters - Yesterday Once More
Posted By: davidclark
Subject: Carpenters - Yesterday Once More
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 5:30pm
I am trying to track down the 45 version of this. Not easy! Pat, you indicate most 45 versions that are remixed to also contain a rerecorded piano track, with the exception of one CD: A&M 828393601 The Singles 1969-1973 (remastered edition; 45 version). Is this in fact the true 45 version without the rerecorded piano track? The only other CD that seems to contain the 45 is The Singles 1969-1973 (first pressing).
Also, what's the difference b/n the 45 and LP in this case?
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Posted By: JMD1961
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 4:06am
According to the latest Collector's Choice catalog, there's now an import CD that has ALL the original album mixes. It's called "The Ultimate Collection", and it's from the Netherlands. Doesn't really answer your question, but I thought I'd put it out there anyway.
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Posted By: budaniel
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 6:55am
as far as the album version goes, it's not separated from the next track--they overlap. Yesterday Once More is part of a very long medley of "oldies"--The Carpenters cover hits of the 60s and use a DJ voice over to make it sound like a radio show between tracks...it ends with a short reprise of Yesteday Once More (actually, an incredibly pretty altered melody of just the line "when I was young I'd listen to the radio").
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Posted By: davidclark
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 7:17am
more on this...Is the difference between the LP version and 45 the electric guitar overdub present on the 45 that is not on the LP version. Any other differences?
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Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 19 May 2007 at 5:27pm
My commercial 45, which is stereo, has a listed time of (3:50), but an actual time of (3:58). Just as an aside, I figured I'd also throw in here that my commercial 45 of "Top Of The World", also stereo, just misses an individual post, with a listed time of (2:56) and an actual time of (2:58) - simply for those "Carpenters 45 version Completionists" on the Board, of which I know currently exist out there.
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Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 20 May 2007 at 6:06pm
Pat, I just saw your new database update for this. Just to let you know, the listed time of (3:50) in my post above was not a typo. Since it appears your commercial 45 for this song has a listed time of (3:55), I am concluding that commercial 45s show a listed time of either (3:50) or (3:55), not (3:55) exclusively.
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Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 26 September 2013 at 11:20pm
I swear to God my commercial 45 for "Yesterday Once More" is mono on the hit side, stereo on the B-side, though both sides say stereo. I'm not noticing any stereo separation on the "Yesterday Once More" side at all. Anyone else notice this? Deadwax on mine is A&M 2493-M2 and "triangle" 91638.
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Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 27 September 2013 at 5:53am
I just gave my commercial copy a listen, and while the
lead vocal and much of the instrumentation does seem to be
mixed to the center, background vocals and reverb have
separation. A bit on the narrow side, but definitely
stereo. Deadwax info on mine: A+M 2493S-PB.
Maybe you got a copy where the stamper for the mono side
of the promo was used.
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Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 27 September 2013 at 7:03am
Hykker wrote:
Maybe you got a copy where the stamper for the mono side of the promo was used. |
Agreed; Monarch must've used the mono master on some west coast stock pressings. The mono side of my DJ 45 reads: "A&M 2493-M1 (Monarch Records "MR" logo) ∆91638". At least Monarch didn't mistakenly use the promo's awful CSG-processed stereo side ("A&M CSG - 2493S-M2 (DJ) (Monarch Records "MR" logo) ∆91640").
The Columbia Terre Haute stock styrenes issued in the midwest were in stereo. My two read "T A&M2493S-T1" and "A&M 2493S-T3 TII" respectively.
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Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 27 September 2013 at 1:59pm
Yah Shure wrote:
Hykker wrote:
Maybe you got a copy where the stamper for the mono side of the promo was used. |
Agreed; Monarch must've used the mono master on some west coast stock pressings. The mono side of my DJ 45 reads: "A&M 2493-M1 (Monarch Records "MR" logo) ∆91638". At least Monarch didn't mistakenly use the promo's awful CSG-processed stereo side ("A&M CSG - 2493S-M2 (DJ) (Monarch Records "MR" logo) ∆91640").
The Columbia Terre Haute stock styrenes issued in the midwest were in stereo. My two read "T A&M2493S-T1" and "A&M 2493S-T3 TII" respectively.
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Hey... do the "M" and the "S" in the deadwax on these mean "Mono" and "Stereo"? 'Cause if they do, then I don't even have to wonder if my ears are deceiving me.
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Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 27 September 2013 at 3:01pm
Brian, in this case, the "2493" indicates mono, and the "2493S" indicates stereo.
The letter after the dash following that number represents the pressing plant ("P" for Columbia Pitman, "T" for Columbia Terre Haute and "M" for Monarch.
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Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 27 September 2013 at 6:02pm
Yah Shure wrote:
Brian, in this case, the "2493" indicates mono, and the "2493S" indicates stereo.
The letter after the dash following that number represents the pressing plant ("P" for Columbia Pitman, "T" for Columbia Terre Haute and "M" for Monarch. |
Ah, I see. That explains why the stereo B-side, "Road Ode," is A&M 2494S-M4.
Thanks. It's great to have such knowledgable people on this board.
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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 29 September 2013 at 10:28pm
So am I understanding correctly then that commercial 45 pressings of The Carpenters' "Yesterday Once More" were issued in both mono and stereo? If so, I'll make sure I update this in the http://www.top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6637&KW=1973 - List of Mono and Stereo 45s - 1973 thread.
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Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 30 September 2013 at 2:18am
Todd Ireland wrote:
So am I understanding correctly then that commercial 45 pressings of The Carpenters' "Yesterday Once More" were issued in both mono and stereo? If so, I'll make sure I update this in the http://www.top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6637&KW=1973 - List of Mono and Stereo 45s - 1973 thread. |
Apparently... I've got one.
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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 30 September 2013 at 9:16pm
This is interesting given that all other Carpenters Top 40 singles dating back to 1970 have been documented in the mono/stereo threads as being in stereo only. So I wonder if anyone else has run across commercial 45 pressings of other Carpenters hits in mono?
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Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 30 September 2013 at 9:52pm
Todd Ireland wrote:
This is interesting given that all other Carpenters Top 40 singles dating back to 1970 have been documented in the mono/stereo threads as being in stereo only. So I wonder if anyone else has run across commercial 45 pressings of other Carpenters hits in mono? |
Well, it does SAY stereo on the label. It was probably inadvertant. If I recall correctly, their "Merry Christmas Darling" commercial single used the CSG stereo process that we discussed briefly in the "Calling Occupants" thread.
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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 01 October 2013 at 8:29am
Does the mono 45 pressing sound like a dedicated mix or a fold-down
of the stereo 45? Since most singles were being issued in stereo by
1973, I'm thinking this is probably a fold-down.
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Posted By: KentT
Date Posted: 17 October 2013 at 8:01am
The mono is a fold down. The Stereo mix was on the
commercial stock 45. There might have been a promo mono
side stamper which got used for a pressing run of stock 45
singles.
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