"Some Things Are Better Left Unsaid"
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Topic: "Some Things Are Better Left Unsaid"
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Subject: "Some Things Are Better Left Unsaid"
Date Posted: 09 September 2006 at 9:11am
| I've verified with Edtop40 that commercial 45 copies of Hall & Oates' "Some Things Are Better Left Unsaid" run (4:02), not (3:50) as stated on the record label. This info should probably be incorporated into the database. |
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Posted By: Scanner
Date Posted: 08 December 2019 at 5:53pm
| Can the 45 version be edited from the album track? |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 09 December 2019 at 9:15am
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Don't know if it can be recreated from the Album Version,
but I believe the 45 version is on the Japanese import "The Best Of Daryl Hall And John Oates" which has 21 tracks and has several single versions and a few radio edits. |
Posted By: EternalStatic
Date Posted: 14 December 2019 at 12:22pm
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The 45 version can definitely be extracted from the LP version. I have
done so, but I did not keep notes on my edit points. It was a pretty standard process, though. I think you just cut a whole lot of things in half basically — the intro, a chorus or two, and the instrumental bridge IIRC. |
Posted By: Scanner
Date Posted: 14 December 2019 at 6:56pm
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thecdguy:
That Japan "Best Of" is an interesting collection. Was there a 3:26 version of "Maneater?" I don't recall that song was ever edited. EternalStatic: That's what I feared - it does not sound as if this would be easy to edit. There's no obvious sections that could be cut out. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 14 December 2019 at 7:22pm
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Regarding “Maneater,” there is a US promo 45 edit that trims the intro
and sax solo, and I’m pretty sure it also fades early. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 15 December 2019 at 5:24am
Yes, like Aaron said, there was indeed a Promo 45 of "Maneater" running 3:26 and that version is on the Japanese "Best Of". The Promo Edit of "So Close" is also on there as well, even though the actual promo CD single incorrectly listed it as "Single Edit". |
Scanner wrote:Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 15 December 2019 at 5:27pm
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I thought I had posted edit details for this in an
older thread.. I did and found the instructions, but I just checked the LP version and noticed my edit points in that old thread were for a "pitch corrected" LP version. The 45 was sped up a bit. Here are the edit times for the non-pitched LP version: These times assume you'll make edits starting at the intro [the later times are only accurate if you've already done the first edits]. There are 3 edits: Edit on downbeat from :04 - :21 in intro. Edit on snare from 2:11 - 2:27 Edit on snare from 3:43 - 4:08 Now in that result, edit off remaining audio after 4:04 then fade from about 3:46 to 4:04. The last thing you hear at the end of the fade is the word "unsaid" I don't have the exact pitch number but you'll speed up your result so it runs 4:02. Here is a Youtube reference for the 45 to be sure of your edits (note the record doesn't start playing until :19 seconds in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP91dqJ3KhQ MM |
Posted By: Scanner
Date Posted: 17 December 2019 at 8:16pm
| Got it - thanks! |
Posted By: Steve Carras
Date Posted: 17 December 2019 at 9:44pm
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I thought it was going to be a topic on Olivia Newton-
John's "I Honestly Love you"lol.:D ------------- You know you're really older when you think that younger singer Jesse McCartney's related in anyway to former Beatle Paul McCartney. |
Posted By: garye
Date Posted: 19 December 2019 at 8:20pm
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I have a 256k MP3 of the actual 45 dub.
Anyone interested welcomed to PM for a copy! |
Posted By: peterpyser
Date Posted: 09 January 2020 at 2:27am
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The 45 version of 'Some Things Are Better Left Unsaid'
is definitely on the Japanese import "The Best Of Daryl Hall And John Oates". The actual 45 version of 'Method Of Modern Love' is on there as well. |
Posted By: Bellenger1981
Date Posted: 30 October 2022 at 2:39pm
Listening to the 45 version on the Japan "Best Of", to my ears, the "ooooh" vocal comes in before the snare at 2:11, so isn't the edit actually just before the snare at 2:11? I was unable to re-create this edit, for that reason, or maybe I could not get it at the right point. I'm wondering if it is a unique mix, at least at the section. Just curious what others think. ------------- Jason Bellenger Byron Center, Michigan, USA |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 30 October 2022 at 4:53pm
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Sounds to me like the Japan CD does a crossfade at the edit point, which is not correct. The US 45 has a straight edit on the snare hit, so you don't hear the "oooh" vocal before the drum beat. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: Bellenger1981
Date Posted: 30 October 2022 at 5:49pm
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That answers my question, Aaron. Thanks! ------------- Jason Bellenger Byron Center, Michigan, USA |