foreigner "i want to know what love is"
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Topic: foreigner "i want to know what love is"
Posted By: edtop40
Subject: foreigner "i want to know what love is"
Date Posted: 31 October 2006 at 6:33pm
pat
the 45 states a run time of 4:58 but actually runs 5:03.....this might explain the discrepancy in the db.....the versions that are listed as 4:57 or 4:58 should be labeled as "lp & 45 version faded 0:05 early".....the people who put these compilations together probably thought because the 45 stated a run time of 4:58, that that should be the true run time, which is incorect.....
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Posted By: NightAire
Date Posted: 17 March 2012 at 2:03am
As an aside, there is at least one import album which has a version I could only label as "neither single nor album length" (unless somebody can dig this up as a DJ edit).
A friend got me a copy of "Best Of Ballads: Foreigner." It's an import, listed in Discogs as a German release but listed on Amazon as a Japanese import. (?)
This version runs 4:15. It is note-for-note identical to the version we're all familiar with; just an early fade.
Maybe you can consider this post a "buyer beware." :)
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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 17 March 2012 at 8:55am
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I don't think I've ever heard a different edit or length of Foreigner's "I Want to Know What Love Is" other than the 5:03 45/LP length.
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Posted By: NightAire
Date Posted: 17 March 2012 at 7:00pm
Found an even shorter one that supposed to be from a Time / Life collection: 4:01!
Again, just a VERY early fade; no edits. Makes you wonder if people were just trying to fit more songs on the CD or something...
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Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 23 April 2012 at 8:53pm
I found one Australian collection that fades about 30 seconds early (5-CD Eighties Complete Vol. 1, released 1997), and everything else is the same version.
I'll trace the history...
I found two masterings that appeared in 1988.
One is Atlantic's Hit Singles 1980-1988 (1988). A List Disc 29 (1994) seems to be based on Hit Singles but with its absolute polarity inverted. EMI's 2-CD Now 1985 also seems to be based on Hit Singles. All sound so-so.
The other is Warner Special Products' 2-CD Love Songs (1988). Lots of other compilations use the same analog transfer as Love Songs, including Razor & Tie's 2-CD Awesome '80s (1994), JCI's Eighteen Rock Classics (1994), JCI's Only Rock 'N Roll 1985-1989 (1994), and Simitar's Love Rocks 3 Love Time (1998). These all sound fine - to my ears, just a hair better than Hit Singles.
In 1992, Ted Jensen did a fresh analog transfer for The Very Best And Beyond. This disc sounds outstanding, presumably due to very low-generation source tapes. Lots of other compilations use the same analog transfer as Very Best, including Time-Life's Rolling Stone 1982-1986 (1993), Time-Life's Sounds Of The Eighties Vol. 2 1985 (1994), Time-Life's 2-CD Body Talk Vol. 6 Only You (1996), Warner Special Products' 2-CD Midnight Rock (2000), Time-Life's 2-CD Singers And Songwriters Vol. 13 1979-1989 (2001), and Time-Life's 2-CD Classic Soft Rock Ride Like The Wind (2006). All of these sound terrific.
Then there are a few that are extremely loud/compressed/maximized, including Rhino's Millennium New Love Songs (2001), Rhino's 7-CD Like Omigod (2002), and Rhino/Atlantic's Complete Greatest Hits (2002). In general, it's best to avoid Foreigner on Rhino.
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Posted By: eric_a
Date Posted: 17 March 2015 at 6:05pm
I noticed today that the original stock 45 and Atlantic
Oldies Series reissue describe the listed 4:58 version
as an edit of the LP version.
All accounts above suggest that these are the same
version, so I wonder if anyone knows a story behind this
note? I think the single preceded the Agent Provocateur
release, so perhaps the album was slated to include a
longer version? Or might that note have described a
hypothetical 4:58 edit?
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Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 17 March 2015 at 7:21pm
There was a 12" single version of this as well. It was an import for the U.S. I don't know if it appeared on a promo 12" here. I'll check the run time when I get home later.
The intro was slightly longer, and it featured an extra chorus at the end not heard in the 45/LP.
I always wondered if it was the original intended LP version.
MM
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Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 17 March 2015 at 9:57pm
First off, I 100% agree with everything Eric just said in his post.
Unless someone can physically produce a U.S. stock 12" single #0-86913,
I'm currently 100% convinced that Discogs incorrectly lists this item's
existence. During this time, I was paying extremely close attention to
what Top 40 hits were being released on 12" singles, both in the U.S. and
on import. If a U.S. stock 12" came out during this song's current hit run, I
would've noticed that, bought it, and still own it today. One of my local
mom and pop retailers at the time catered to local DJs, and took
stocking/locating 12" singles for them extremely seriously.
The *only* U.S. 12" release for "I Want To Know What Love Is" release that
I know to have ever existed is the promo 12" PR 681, which I own, and has
the stock/promo 45 version on both sides.
I also own the UK import 12", (A 9596), as currently documented on
Discogs, featuring the "extended version". At the time, I had determined
that the stock # 0-86913 12" release was unique to Australia, and was
otherwise a clone, version and track-wise, of the UK 12" single. I suspect
this is the 12" single Mark is referring to, and I share his opinion that,
early on, this longer version was under strong consideration to become
the LP version.
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Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 17 March 2015 at 10:20pm
Thanks for the extra info Jim!
Yes, my 12" was the UK pressing. It also said "Extended
Version" but after hearing it I thought it might be the
actual full length session recording. The running time is
6:15. The intro has an extra measure that is edited off
the intro of the 45/LP, there is also one extra measure
of music after the first chorus, and in the last part
there are 2 extra choruses just before the female solo
comes from the New Jersey Mass Choir.
My guess as to why they chose the short version for the
LP is run-time of the album (not wanting to compress the
grooves too much, like the "Thriller" story...) But we'll
never know for sure.
This would have been a good bonus track for one of the
re-issues of the album.
MM
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