"Turn up the Radio" - Autograph
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Topic: "Turn up the Radio" - Autograph
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Subject: "Turn up the Radio" - Autograph
Date Posted: 16 December 2006 at 12:03pm
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According to the database, commercial 45 copies of Autograph's "Turn up the Radio" run 4:28, while the song is shown with a time of 4:35 on the band's parent LP/CD Sign in Please (RCA 5423). Can anyone shed some light on what accounts for this :07 discrepency in run time between the 45 and LP? (Early fade? Edit? Speed difference?) Chances are, the database will need to be updated to explain this difference.
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Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 17 December 2006 at 2:30pm
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The 45 runs (4:32) not (4:28) as stated on the record label so the timing difference between the LP and 45 is only :03.
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Posted By: Smokin'Tom Gary
Date Posted: 22 December 2006 at 7:55pm
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The 45 promo PB-13953 has a 3:46 Short Version and 4:28 Long Version times printed on the label.
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Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 22 December 2006 at 11:19pm
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Guys, joining us on the Board is the ONE person I know who has more promo 45s/CD singles than I do. Through radio, I have known him for 30 years, although he found the Board on his own. Both his collection and knowledge will be a tremendous asset to the Board. Although he was once a wild DJ, under this name, he has long ago moved on to the engineering side of radio. He is currently very much in demand as one of the top chief engineers in the country, at several different stations. One of them is my alma mater's station, every Wednesday. Smokin' Tom, I will call you Saturday at home, my friend, give you some background on this Board, and catch up on things in general. A warm welcome to you here, sir!
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 23 December 2006 at 2:19pm
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 9:36pm
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Indeed, welcome, Tom! Jim has been a tremendous resource on this board for information regarding DJ edits, so I imagine you'll have no problems making quick friends on this message board with your vast resources and background. I look forward to more posts from you!
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Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 21 September 2014 at 3:30pm
When this song first hit, I bought the 45 and I thought I
remembered it stating it was a special longer mix. I
later bought the LP and I didn't hear much difference, so
I got the rid of the 45.
Since the database shows the LP/45 as being basically the
same version, I figured I recalled wrong about the 45.
I was just on the 45cat database site, and a saw a label
scan of the 45, and it says nothing about the version,
again seeming to confirm I recalled wrong.
BUT, there is also a scan of the picture sleeve, front
and back. On the back of the sleeve it reads "Special
Extended Mix". Aha!
Now I remembered... the intro to the song does indeed
sound extended. The mix is slightly different in the
intro, all the way to about :42 secs, where it sounds
like it splices into the original mix.
So I just played the "DJ 45 Edit" and I notice the guitar
intro before the beat starts is completely different from
the commercial version. It is a 4.5 second intro. The
commercial version has a different 3 sec intro.
So you cannot edit the 45/LP to get the DJ edit. My
theory is that the version on several CD's listed as the
"DJ 45 Edit but :12 longer" may actually be the original
intended LP version.
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Posted By: music4life75
Date Posted: 11 October 2022 at 5:28pm
I believe we need to revisit this topic. Check out this link. This version is
called the “Radio Short Edit” and it runs (4:03) but I timed it around (3:58).
https://youtu.be/CxbPb-jXBfk
This is the “Album Rock Radio Guitar Mix” which is listed as running (4:28),
but i timed it around (4:33).I am assuming this is the B-side to the (3:46)
“Short Version.”
https://youtu.be/Q6SBwetngMw
I’m guessing these need to be added to the database. Also, I’m a little
confused. The 45 version is the “Special Extended Mix”. The album version
is a tad shorter, but the theory is that the 45 Version could’ve been meant
to be the original album version and instead it’s a few seconds shorter?
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 11 October 2022 at 5:45pm
I'll pull my promo 45, but I'm 99.9% certain the actual run time of the Short Version is 3:47, give or take a second. I don't have the promo 12", but it's very likely the same "special extended mix" that ended up on the commercial 45 and LP.
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 11 October 2022 at 5:49pm
I just gave a listen to the YouTube link with a dub of the promo 12", and yes, it sounds like the 45/LP version. As for the video with the 3:58 length (Radio Short Edit), that sounds like someone's homemade version. I'm only listening on laptop speakers, but it seems like someone spliced the unique intro onto the LP version and then just quickly faded out at 3:58. The song dumps out really fast at the end.
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Aaron Kannowski
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Posted By: mjb50
Date Posted: 15 June 2024 at 5:06am
It seems the retail 45, promo 12", promo 45 "long version", and the very common album version are in fact all the same remix.
The https://www.discogs.com/release/2434114-Autograph-Sign-In-Please - German vinyl LP , https://www.discogs.com/release/9364987-Autograph-Sign-In-Please - 1990 German CD , and https://www.discogs.com/release/13186466-Autograph-Sign-In-Please - original Canadian LP claim to have a 3:58 version. So I suspect that's the original version and the reason why the text on the 45 sleeve says the "4:28" version is an extended remix.
Therefore, I also suspect it was on the first pressings of the US LP, just not yet entered in Discogs because people haven't noticed yet. And I think I have confirmed this; there's a PBthal rip claiming to be of the US LP and it is this version. (A commenter on the "Radio Short Edit" at YouTube also confirms that the 3:58 edit is indeed the first LP version.)
As mentioned, though, apparently the promo 45 short version is unique.
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Posted By: mjb50
Date Posted: 08 May 2025 at 12:07am
Following up on this, I double-checked and am confident of the info in my last comment, so the database entry for this song could stand to be updated.
I think it would be simplest if what is currently listed as "(this is the dj edit but :13 longer)" is just changed to "(this is the original LP version)".
Maybe also change the overall notes to add "the 3:46 dj edit is an early fade of the original LP version, and the 4:32 version is the 45 version and more common LP version", or something to that effect.
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