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Topic: Steppenwolf - Magic Carpet Ride
Posted By: aaronk
Subject: Steppenwolf - Magic Carpet Ride
Date Posted: 04 January 2007 at 12:35pm
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I mentioned this a while back, but the Varese compilation On The Radio has the song "Magic Carpet Ride" by Steppenwolf mastered from vinyl. They didn't even bother to take out the clicks throughout their dub.
The reason I mention this again is because the database does not note that it's a vinyl remaster. While it is the only CD that currently has the 45 version, the sound quality is so poor, it's not even worth picking up for this song. |
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Posted By: Roscoe
Date Posted: 04 January 2007 at 1:24pm
Yes, unfortunately the master tape for the 45 version was destroyed long ago. At this point, any release of the 45 version will have to come from a vinyl source. The 45s were mastered with a lot of compression and distortion, so their sonics are distinctly lo-fi. These bad sonics are faithfully represented on the Dick Bartley CD. |
aaronk wrote:Posted By: BillCahill
Date Posted: 04 January 2007 at 5:58pm
| You'll note Pat Downey's name (and mine) on the credits of that Varese CD. (along with other people that probably frequent this board.. My contribution was winning an arguement about the existance of a stereo single version of Sky Pilot.. I knew there was one but a tape couldn't be found, so they used a 45) I remember talking to Dick Bartley about Magic Carpet Ride and I Saw Her Again, both on that CD. He said Magic Carpet Ride was from the best 45 they could find, and got them to EQ it a bit so it wasn't so muddy. So it's an equalized 45. On I Saw Her Again, he pushed them to ADD bass because it was so thin. Interestingly, he told me I Saw Her Again was from a tape source. Although the original mono tape was thrown out with all the ABC Dunhill mono mixes in the early 70's, a tape was found overseas on I Saw Her Again as part of some compilation album, probably from the late 60's. Though it's probably a fifth generation removed from the master, at least it's a tape source. I think they've used that on the other mono issues of I Saw Her Again. |
Posted By: TomDiehl1
Date Posted: 04 January 2007 at 7:36pm
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Did varese use an original ABC Dunhill pressing 45 for Magic Carpet Ride of one of the Goldies 45 reissue 45s?
The reissue 45s on that label existed on both vinyl and styrene, and a rather clean copy could've been pulled from a mint styrene copy and sounded slightly better than a mint vinyl copy would've sounded. My reissue however is on vinyl but I have no doubt a styrene pressing also exists. ------------- Live in stereo. |
Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 04 February 2007 at 7:53pm
But, I understand that all reissue 45s are not the actual 45 mono single mix. All of the original ABC/Dunhill 45s sound bad. ------------- |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 04 February 2007 at 10:30pm
Tom, with all due respect, EVERY time Aaron K and I hear someone "make the choice/sing the praises/tout the advantages" of selecting a styrene 45 transfer OVER a vinyl styrene transfer, we both shake our collective coconuts like bobbleheads, in TOTAL disbelief! I've sent Aaron MANY mint styrenes, and MANY mint vinyl 45 for him to work his audio magic on, and time after time after time, Aaron reiterates to me that his vinyl transfer results blow the DOORS off his styrene transfer results. This has also been my long-time personal observation. Different strokes for different folks, I suppose.... |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 05 February 2007 at 12:31am
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Yes, I concur with Jim. Styrenes are junk compared to vinyl. If I had to conjure up a guess (since I don't know the facts), I'd say using polystyrene was a way for record companies to save money.
I'm not saying I've never heard a nice sounding styrene, because there are a few that exist; however, many of the ones I've encountered tend to distort on the loud parts, as if someone were scraping a rock across concrete. They just don't hold up as well as vinyl does. That's not to say that there isn't crappy sounding vinyl out there, too. Jim was kind enough to loan me four copies of "Hair" by the Cowsills--three on vinyl and one styrene repress. That MGM vinyl is pure garbage; it sounds like a hail storm against a window, even in mint condition. The styrene repress had hardly any surface noise at all, but it was terribly distorted. |
Posted By: TomDiehl1
Date Posted: 05 February 2007 at 12:37am
My reissue 45, which is on vinyl, does contain the original mono 45rpm mixes. ------------- Live in stereo. |
Posted By: TomDiehl1
Date Posted: 05 February 2007 at 12:40am
Maybe i should send him some of the Diamond label 45s i have on vinyl and styrene....the styrene copies sound so much nicer, especially when cleaned up, and then folded back down to mono so that there is not any stereo record noise (a lot of the distortion disappears that way too....and i dont think they did that for Magic Carpet Ride on cd or the result wouldve sounded different). ------------- Live in stereo. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 05 February 2007 at 1:29am
You're correct, Tom. The clicks are stereo, so it looks like they did not fold this one down. |
Posted By: BillCahill
Date Posted: 10 February 2007 at 6:04am
| I first noticed the stereo edit of Magic Carpet Ride on the MCA 45 reissues. It was odd that they did that. Most of the time they just put the stereo versions on those reissue 45s after the mono version were thrown out to save money on storage. Someone, apparently in the 1980s created a new edit for 45 re-issues. I noted to Andy McKaie at MCA that it wasn't very faithful but he said they felt it was fine. Does anybody have Magic Carpet Ride on a re-issue 45 that's the full length version? Or in stereo on the Goldies label? I also think it was re-issued on Roulette as MCA and Roulette had some kind of trade agreement in the 1980's. Tommy James and other Roulette artists were on MCA re-issue 45s (Crimson and Clover was the album version on 45), Steppenwolf and other MCA artists ended up on Roulette re-issue 45s. I think Roulette just folded down everything to mono on some of these 45 releases. |
Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 12 February 2007 at 5:15pm
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Bill, the original 45 was a mono remix. Those reissue 45s are nothing more than an approximation o0f that 45 in stereo, and it's not an accurate edit. The full length is, of course, available on CD everywhere you look...if I understand what you are getting at... ------------- |
Posted By: davidclark
Date Posted: 12 February 2007 at 8:30pm
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not only was Magic Carpet Ride a mono remix/edit but the 45 has an alternate lead vocal. VERY noticeable right away. ------------- dc1 |
Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 16 February 2007 at 10:43pm
Right! On the mono mix, John Kay sings "I like to dream!", with an upswing on the word 'dream". On the LP version, he sings it like he's bored. The organ is also much louder on the mono 45. ------------- |
Posted By: Bob Lovely
Date Posted: 17 February 2007 at 8:13am
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As legend has it, the 45 vocal was an early take much like a "guide vocal". Reportedly, it was "accidently" used on the "mixdown" for the Mono 45 from the original 16-track multi-track tape. Further, John Kay prefers the vocal that was later cut for the Stereo LP mix and subsequent release. The Mono mix was tossed [as were many ABC/Dunhill Mono masters] when ABC purchased the Dot masters in the early 70's and they needed room in their vault. We lost these historic mixes for Pat Boone masters...
Bob ------------- Just give me the hits... |
Posted By: Bill Cahill
Date Posted: 18 February 2007 at 4:47pm
| I'm not sure if anybody knows the real reason for the difference in vocal. On one version he sings flies far, goes near, the other goes far, flies near. I figured one of them was wrong so John Kay re-did it. But the vocal is only different through the first chorus. And on the fade out chorus.(at the end, the 45 splices in the differently sung first chorus, the LP version splices a different chorus at the end) The second verse and chorus matches on both versions, that wasn't re-done. Dick Bartley told me he asked John Kay about it and Kay said he thought he did the song in one take, so it's doubtful even Kay remembers why it's different. |
Posted By: Bob Lovely
Date Posted: 19 February 2007 at 7:52am
Bill, I took my information from the ACE CD, "Chartbusters USA, Vol. #2" and from discussions that have taken place over at Steve Hoffman's forum over the years. ACE does not specifically list their sources of information but, it certainly makes sense, considering the vocal takes are obviously different. As you may recall, Hoffman mastered this track [Stereo mix] for the "Vintage Hits" series issued by MCA many years ago. Bob ------------- Just give me the hits... |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 11 January 2008 at 11:50pm
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Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 12 January 2008 at 12:08am
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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 13 January 2008 at 9:33pm
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I'm digging this thread back up again because, according to the database, CD appearances of "Magic Carpet Ride" with the "LP version" comment have run times ranging from 4:18 to 4:28. I happened to compare the song from Steppenwolf's Born to Be Wild/A Retrospective CD (MCA 10389; run time - 4:19) to the All-Time Greatest Hits disc (MCA 088112063; run time - 4:26) and noticed something... On the Retrospective CD, the intro to "Magic Carpet Ride" has a truncated fade-in. However, the song's intro on the Greatest Hits disc has a slow, smooth, fully intact fade-in, thus accounting for the song's overall longer run time.
My question is this... Did Steppenwolf's 1969 parent vinyl LP The Second contain the truncated or the fully intact fade-in intro of "Magic Carpet Ride"? Once we uncover the answer, it should be noted in the database which CDs contain the "true" LP version with the correct intro. |
Posted By: Bill Cahill
Date Posted: 13 January 2008 at 10:29pm
| Not all versions are in phase if you sum them to mono either. Rather annoying for us radio people trying to sound good on mono radios. I'd have to check the history of this track, it wouldn't surprise me if the intro was cut on one of the vinyl compilations and then it ended up that way on CD too. |
Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 5:54pm
I found that the original first pressings in the Goldies 45 series utilized the same stampers as the original late-'60s 45s. In my neck of the woods, that first generation of Goldies 45s were all Monarch styrene pressings like the not-so-exclusive WDGY backup copy on the left below. These originals had a tan label with the Dunhill/ABC logo, and originally shipped in similarly-attired tan sleeves. This particular Goldies 45 copy and my original stock 45 were both pressed from the same stamper, and are the hit mono 45 version. "Born To Be Wild" on the flip is also the original mono 45 mix. The later yellowish-labelled reissue on the right (with the recording published 1973 date) plays mono fold-down mixes on both sides. "Magic Carpet Ride" has the long, faded-in intro, and clocks in at 3:03. "Born To Be Wild" runs 3:28, and does not have the edit in the bridge found on the original mono 45. The later reissues shipped in black Goldies 45 sleeves. 
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Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 7:14pm
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Thanks! Yes, you can tell that the label on the left is the exact, same stamper and label typeset used on the original 1968 45s that I have. Hmmm...I wonder if it is cleaner-sounding, too.
The later, 1973 version is the one most commonly heard on oldies radio these days...but it's wrong. ------------- |
Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 9:12pm
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I had already bought Steppenwolf The Second, so I special-ordered my stock Carpet Ride 45 after it had fallen off the charts, because I wanted "Sookie, Sookie" without having to buy the first album. I've never listened to the "Magic Carpet Ride" side of the WeeGee copy, since I already had that on the Bartley CD. But the "Born To Be Wild" side of the unplayed WDGY copy *somehow* found its way onto Napster years ago. ;) I always preferred the hotter guitars on the mono 45 mix of BTBW. It really rocked, and sounded terrific on AM radio.
You're absolutely right about the wrongness of the '73 Carpet. Yechh. |
Posted By: satchdr
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 11:16pm
| In response to Todd's question, I have an original "Steppenwolf The Second" (still with the original Dunhill inner sleeve, I'm proud to say) in my collection. The listed time for "Magic Carpet Ride" is 4:30 and I listened to and timed the cut. It is, indeed, 4:30 (actually fades out between 4:30 and 4:31) and it has the fully intact fade-in. |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 11:31pm
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Thanks so much, satchdr! We have extremely knowledgable experts here on the board who can answer just about any question dealing with 45 versions and radio edits, so it's always great when we can get an occasional LP related question answered too!
Looks like there should definitely be some kind of notation in the database referencing the fact that the LP version of "Magic Carpet Ride" on some CDs has part of the faded-in guitar intro missing. We've seen this type of problem on CD before with the organ intro on First Class's "Beach Baby". |
Posted By: TomDiehl1
Date Posted: 17 January 2008 at 5:07pm
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I have a pressing of the Dunhill/ABC Goldies 45 version of the reissue, on vinyl. The vinyl is still of rather poor quality, consistant with regular stock issues of the two 45's. The styrene version of the reissue, played on the right equipment, could sound much more fantastic than the vinyl original or reissue 45's did. ------------- Live in stereo. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 24 November 2010 at 2:54pm
| There is a 1976 double LP from the UK (ABC Records) called "California Sunshine." It has a printed time of 2:55 for "Magic Carpet Ride." Quite possibly it's the same stereo edit used for later 45 reissues, but does anyone know for sure? |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 24 November 2010 at 7:50pm
| Aaron, I just wanted to refer you to the pic that John (Yah Shure) posted earlier in this thread. It perfectly demonstrates visually the point I made to you about the subtle re-issue label difference with "Goldies 45s" that I discussed in our most recent, private e-mail. |
Posted By: KentT
Date Posted: 24 November 2010 at 8:12pm
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The Left label 45 is authentic and from an original single stamper which is authentic AM mono. The right label is wonky about being original due to the fact that they often cut new stampers after the originals wore out. Many of the last ABC Goldies 45 label 45's often have Stereo or re-channeled content or fold downs of Stereo content. So we must listen to them first or at least look for period deadwax. And not just with Steppenwolf. ------------- I turn up the good and turn down the bad! |
Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 26 November 2010 at 11:24am
So I have an MCA double-sided 45-rpm disc that has "Born..." on one side and an edit of "Magic Carpet Ride" on the other. Is that not the genuine edit? I have heard it on classic rock radio. ------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Richmond Hill, Ontario) |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 26 November 2010 at 11:38am
| Well, I assume the stereo edit was done by someone at the record company, but not at the time when the song was a hit. If it's in stereo and matches the LP vocal take, it's not the hit version. |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 26 November 2010 at 2:47pm
Can't speak for the record in question, but I'd be leery of MCA reissue singles. I had a 3 Dog Night reissue with "One"/"Try A Little Tenderness". "One" was a mono fold-down of the album version and TALT seemed to be a neither-album-nor-single version, also in mono. I didn't keep it since I got it in an attempt to get a better sounding copy of TALT than my original-label 45. Don't think I've heard the single mix of MCR on the radio in decades. |
Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 26 November 2010 at 7:22pm
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Jody, I have a mid-1980s http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh240/YahShure/Steppenwolf-MagicCarpetRideMCAreissue.jpg - MCA reissue 45 on the "clouds" label design, and can assure you that it is not the original single version (and ditto for the "Born To Be Wild" side.) Since the original Dunhill Goldies 45 reissue shown on the left side in the scan upthread is identical to the original http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh240/YahShure/Steppenwolf-MagicCarpetRidestock.jpg - Dunhill stock 45 , I'll refer to both of these as the "Dunhill 45" in the following comparison of the key differences between them and the MCA reissue 45:
1. The Dunhill 45 is mono; MCA is stereo. Ditto for the "Born To Be Wild" sides on the reissues: original Dunhill Goldies 45 is mono; the MCA 45 is stereo. 2. The intro on the Dunhill 45 is edited and begins at full volume. On the MCA reissue, it fades in like it does on the LP version. 3. On the song's first line of the Dunhill 45, John Kay sings the word "dream" as "dree--eeam" using two notes, with a higher pitch on the second half of the word. On both the LP version and the MCA reissue 45, "dream " is sung with a single note, without a raise in pitch. 4. The instrumental break on the MCA reissue has one of the clunkiest-sounding edits on earth, as the cut doesn't match the beat at all, and is extremely noticeable. The beat remains unbroken on the much smoother edit on the Dunhill 45. 5. Timing differences. Comparing the original Dunhill Goldies 45 with the MCA 45: "Magic Carpet Ride" --- Dunhill Goldies 45 (2:53) --- MCA 45 (2:44) "Born To Be Wild" ----- Dunhill Goldies 45 (3:02) --- MCA 45 (3:26) and no edit in bridge. 6. Different matrix numbers. Dunhill 45: 01247; MCA: D-1433-BS-MCA-G (Gloverville, NY plant) A few months back, I finally got around to ripping the original Dunhill Goldies 45 copy shown on the upthread scan. To answer Grant's earlier question ("Hmmm... I wonder if it is cleaner-sounding, too") the answer is no, because the stamper is identical to the 1968 stock 45 pressed by Monarch. It sounds dull, dull, dull, with no highs to speak of and not much bottom end. But it does sound much cleaner and a lot less harsh than the needledrop used for the Dick Bartley On The Radio Vol. 1 CD. I gave my own needledrop a significant EQ boost, and it still easily surpasses the quality of the Bartley track. Because tracking down so many of the ABC/Dunhill 45 versions will require having to rely on needledrops, here's a short background on each of those labels' reissue 45 series: We already know that Dunhill's reissues began with the tan-labelled Dunhill Goldies 45 series, which, as far as I can tell, were all pressed on styrene by Monarch Records. As I'd mentioned earlier upthread, these original pressings - which contained the same versions as the original Dunhill 45s - came packaged in their own http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh240/YahShure/originalDunhillGoldies45sleeve.jpg - tan sleeves . Say what you will about styrene 45s, but for my money, they were a lot cleaner than the sorry excuses ABC used for vinyl at the pressing plants to which they contracted their work (the lone exception would be the Dunhill Goldies 45 reissue of Richard Harris' "MacArthur Park", which - like most all styrene pressings of such extreme length - wouldn't hold up beyond its first playing. Mine didn't even make it that far.) ABC Records had its own line of reissue 45s, the http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh240/YahShure/BarryMann-SealedWithAKissreissuewithartisttypo.jpg - Oldies Treasure Chest series (complete with typos!) which came in blue-and-white sleeves that were updated periodically to list some of the most recent releases in the series. These carried a 1200-series numbering system. As with the Dunhill line, vinyl grades were typically quite poor, with brand-new styrene pressings sounding the cleanest. ABC discontinued the Oldies Treasure Chest line in 1973, consolidating both it and Dunhill Goldies 45 lines under the Goldies 45 banner, complete with label redesign. Under the auspices of executive producer Steve Resnick, the new Goldies 45 series re-badged the earlier releases, reissued more-recent ABC and Dunhill hits and began to license or cross-license older oldies from other labels such as Vee-Jay, Swan and Roulette. A series of LPs, each highlighting a specific year, was also available for a brief time on the ABC label. The extensive depth of the Goldies 45 series was rather short-lived; many of the deeper titles went out of print after Resnick left ABC in 1977. It was when the 1973 Goldies 45 series was launched that the use of the original stampers was discontinued, replaced by newly-cut metal parts. The following year, 1974, saw ABC's purchase of the Famous Music Group, which included the Dot label, and most of us have long known the consequences of that acquisition. During this same time, Roulette Records cross-licensed a number of ABC/Dunhill back-to-back hits, releasing them on its own Golden Goodies 45 series. Unfortunately, these were fold-downs of the stereo LP versions. At the same time, Roulette had new metal parts cut to replace those previously used for many of their own titles in the Golden Goodies 45 series, with stereo LP fold-downs replacing many of the earlier hit mono 45s (this is when the folded-down "Mony Mony" LP version likely first surfaced.) Where the real Goldies 45 confusion arises is in the catalog numbers. The original Dunhill Goldies 45 releases' 1400-number series carried over to both the 1973 Goldies 45 line and the MCA reissue 45s. An added word of caution: I saw some 1965-'66 Dunhill 45 titles under their original A/B pairings come through the distributor I worked for in 1976 that were on the http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh240/YahShure/CaliforniaDreainrepro.jpg - post-1968 Dunhill/ABC label . These may very well have been legit reissues, but they might as well have been boots, with very poor quality re-ground vinyl and tons of noise. A must to avoid! Here's a good rule of thumb when it comes to these reissues: If it's original 45 versions you're after from the ABC/Dunhill labels, look for the tan, original Dunhill Goldies 45 or ABC Oldies Treasure Chest series. Your mileage will definitely vary once you get into the 1973 yellow-gold label Goldies 45 line, and all bets are off with the MCA reissues. Steve: XM's '60s channel almost always played the single version of "Carpet." |
Posted By: TomDiehl1
Date Posted: 26 November 2010 at 9:58pm
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I have several Goldies 45 reissues by Ronnie Dove, many are in stereo, but not all of them. A couple of the songs are actually in first time stereo on those 45s, which surprised the hell out of me....but they have turned up on cd since then, for the most part (there is one exception I can think of, a B side).
The licensing on those is credited to "International Widgit", which helps me not at all, when it comes to tracking down the original Diamond master tapes or session tapes. Universal had a job reel with all of the titles on it but they wouldn't give me any info beyond that... and now it's safe to assume the reel is now toast...a bummer since some of the first time stereo cuts on the 45s never turned up from tape sources on cd... ------------- Live in stereo. |
Posted By: Scott Young
Date Posted: 29 March 2012 at 12:24pm
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Revisiting an old thread to ask a question. Does anyone know what version of MCR was on the original issue Canadian RCA 45? I found a Canadian RCA Golden Greats 45 (D-1433) that has a fold down of the 4:30 LP version. It's a lot cleaner, and not near as murky as the Dunhill 45s I've heard. If only it was the right version! If I could find the real 45 version that sounded this good it would make my day.
By the way, this search is part of an ongoing (read: neverending) project to use versions that are reasonably faithful to the hit versions on the new online reincarnation of KISN radio in Portland. Check it out at www.goodguyradio.com. Thanks to all who contribute here. I've gained a wealth of knowledge reading this board! |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 29 March 2012 at 1:35pm
Welcome to the board, Scott! You're in good company, as there are quite a few current or ex-radio people here who share your interest in this stuff. A few of us have taken our compiling projects to delightful extremes, like assembling the best-sounding 45 versions for everything that hit the top 40 or the Hot 100 for a particular year. If you're wondering about a particular song/artist, the search feature on the site is invaluable for digging up threads. BTW, very nice website for Good Guy Radio - it captures the excitement of the old KISN very well. It's too bad that the Dunhill 45s sounded so bad. You can tell from the sparkling Steve Hoffman remixes of "Born To Be Wild" and "Magic Carpet Ride" on the Vintage Music collections that these songs were recorded very well, but you'd never know it from the 45s. |
Posted By: Scott Young
Date Posted: 29 March 2012 at 6:23pm
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Thanks for the comments on KISN. It's a fun project for a handful of us 50+ ex radio guys. We're old enough to be underserved by what passes for oldies radio today...and still young enough to do something about it. Listener response has been overwhelming.
We're currently playing the stereo mix of Magic Carpet Ride, edited to match the 45. I'd like to remedy that, but it depends on finding an alternate source for the genuine single version. A Canadian RCA 45 should do the trick if Canada got a dub of the US 45 master for the initial release. So far I haven't been able to answer that question. This isnt the first time I've been hosed by a reissue 45 but it was worth a shot! |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 29 March 2012 at 7:02pm
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To 'Crapfromthepast':
On the 'Vintage Music' series (to the best of my knowledge) "Born To Be Wild" was remixed, "Magic Carpet Ride" was not. Andy |
Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 30 March 2012 at 7:44pm
I did not go back over the thread, and Ido not know if you know this, but the true 45 of "Magic Carpet Ride" is on Dick Bartley "On The Radio: Volume 1" CD. It is a Bill Inglot needledrop of the original ABC/Dunhill mono 45. I can send it to you if you need. ------------- |
Posted By: Scott Young
Date Posted: 31 March 2012 at 10:59am
| Thanks for the offer Grant! Check your PMs... |
Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 31 March 2012 at 11:20am
You have a reply PM. ------------- |
Posted By: Scott Young
Date Posted: 31 March 2012 at 3:45pm
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Many thanks Grant! It'll never be a sonic wonder but considering the source is a Dunhill 45, it's pretty good!
A tip of the hat from the KISN Good Guys!... |
Posted By: KentT
Date Posted: 02 April 2012 at 2:01pm
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A tip, the original Canadian RCA issue of this track does have the real mono 45 version on them. ------------- I turn up the good and turn down the bad! |
Posted By: Steve Carras
Date Posted: 16 January 2015 at 12:39am
Also, of course, orig. and tan reissue Dunhill 45, right after a line that ends "Flies far/goes near", unlike the original LP version onwards and MCA reissue 45 (and possibly the just plain "goldies 45"(small letters as such) yellow label), "Goes far/Flies near". ;) ------------- You know you're really older when you think that younger singer Jesse McCartney's related in anyway to former Beatle Paul McCartney. |
Posted By: Steve Carras
Date Posted: 29 April 2015 at 9:33pm
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Our local station has a recreated edit (NOT MIX, though, given the different recordings), which has a (I think fake) colds ending, which MAY be one of the reissues, maybe the 1970s "goldies 45" reissues (mine is the original Oct.1968 hit issue :)). ------------- You know you're really older when you think that younger singer Jesse McCartney's related in anyway to former Beatle Paul McCartney. |
Posted By: Steve Carras
Date Posted: 29 April 2015 at 9:35pm
Also, of course, orig. and tan reissue Dunhill 45, right after a line that ends "Flies far/goes near", unlike the original LP version onwards and MCA reissue 45 (and possibly the just plain "goldies 45"(small letters as such) yellow label), "Goes far/Flies near". ;) And Scott, Welcome! UPDATE: Sorry for accidental re-post! :D ------------- You know you're really older when you think that younger singer Jesse McCartney's related in anyway to former Beatle Paul McCartney. |
Posted By: Bill Cahill
Date Posted: 01 May 2015 at 10:40am
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Steve if your local station is part of iHeartMedia, that
edit with the cold ending is probably mine. Since the final chorus on both the single and the LP version is actually a spliced in repeat of the first chorus,(although a different sing on both, they both do the same thing) I was able to create that cold ending by using more of that first chorus at the end of the song. The single actually ends cold if you crank it up all the way. So I figured what the heck, I'd end it cold... it's not a real version of the song anyway. But it's better than that MCA butcher re-issue. |
Posted By: Steve Carras
Date Posted: 06 May 2015 at 6:30pm
My station IS an I <3 radio station! :) Thanks very much. ------------- You know you're really older when you think that younger singer Jesse McCartney's related in anyway to former Beatle Paul McCartney. |