Kate Bush-"Running Up That Hill"
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Topic: Kate Bush-"Running Up That Hill"
Posted By: jimct
Subject: Kate Bush-"Running Up That Hill"
Date Posted: 04 January 2007 at 8:27pm
| I have two different promo 45s for this. The first, featuring the standard EMI America label of the day, has the listed and actual (4:56) version on both sides, just like the commercial 45. We also got in a 2nd promo, with a blank white label (which was not all that unusual for Capitol/EMI during the 70s & 80s.) There is no time specified, but both sides have an actual time of (3:23). This edited version does not fade in; the first note features drumbeats. |
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Posted By: NightAire
Date Posted: 12 June 2014 at 12:12am
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Jim, is that 3:23 short DJ version just chopping off the front and fading early, or is it a remix? ------------- Gene Savage http://www.BlackLightRadio.com - http://www.BlackLightRadio.com http://www.facebook.com/TulsaSavage - http://www.facebook.com/TulsaSavage Tulsa, Oklahoma USA |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 12 June 2014 at 2:03am
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Gene, it's not a remix. The intro is chopped, but it appears to retain the
ending of my stock 45. I'm not so hot at exact milli-second analysis, so check your station's e-mail; I've forwarded this version to you. Please feel free to analyze/share its exact edit point specifics. |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 12 June 2014 at 5:30pm
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It's indeed an edit. I reverse-engineered Aaron's recreation of the promo 45 version.
Start with the LP and commercial 45 version on Living In Oblivion Vol. 2 (1993), which should be extremely inexpensive nowadays and sounds excellent. It runs 4:56, and uses a drum machine that runs from 108.1 BPM at the beginning to 108.2 BPM at the end. Remove the first 6.1 seconds of the commercial 45/LP version. That will leave about 0.02 seconds before the first drum beat. Segment 1: 187 beats long Begins 0.02 seconds before the first drum beat Ends on a snare Extends from 0:00 to 1:44.0 of the promo 45 edit. Extends from 0:06.1 to 1:49.8 of the commercial 45/LP version. Add a short fade-in for the first 0.02 seconds of this segment, just before the drumbeat. (At least that's what Aaron did - it sounds quite good.) Remove the 84 beats from 1:49.8 to 2:36.4 of the LP version. Segment 2: 5 beats long Begins on a snare Ends on a downbeat Extends from 1:44.0 to 1:46.7 of the promo 45 edit. Extends from 2:36.4 to 2:39.2 of the commercial 45/LP version. Remove the 8 beats from 2:39.2 to 2:43.6 of the commercial 45/LP version. Segment 3: 89 beats long Begins on a downbeat Ends on a snare Extends from 1:46.7 to 2:36.1 of the promo 45 edit. Extends from 2:43.6 to 3:33.0 of the commercial 45/LP version. Remove the 64 beats from 3:33.0 to 4:08.5 of the commercial 45/LP version. Segment 4: Begins on a snare Extends from 2:36.1 to 3:23.7 (end) of the promo 45 edit. Extends from 4:08.5 to 4:57.8 (end) of the commercial 45/LP version. Your mixdown will run 3:23, with edits at 1:44.0, 1:46.7 and 2:36.1. ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |
Posted By: NightAire
Date Posted: 12 June 2014 at 7:13pm
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...What CPTP said. :-) (Thanks, CPTP & Jim!) ------------- Gene Savage http://www.BlackLightRadio.com - http://www.BlackLightRadio.com http://www.facebook.com/TulsaSavage - http://www.facebook.com/TulsaSavage Tulsa, Oklahoma USA |
Posted By: Bwci Bo
Date Posted: 16 July 2014 at 5:36am
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I've just spent the past hour or so trying to recreate the
promo 45 version using the information above. Needless to say, while the instructions are very detailed, the end result doesn't sound too flash. Does it sound this bad on the original vinyl? Or is it just one of those cases where you need to hear the original in order to replicate it successfully? Can anyone with a copy of it assist me please? |
Posted By: 80smusicfreak
Date Posted: 03 January 2015 at 4:35am
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While going through all of the songs from 1985 in the db last week, I happened to notice that two "Best of..."/"Greatest Hits"-type collections were missing from the listings, and interestingly, both are by highly-regarded female singers from the U.K., and in another parallel, both ended up being essentially "one-hit wonders" here in the U.S.: Alison Moyet and Kate Bush...
The one by Kate Bush, titled The Whole Story - which includes her lone U.S. top 40 hit, "Running Up That Hill" (track 7) - was issued on CD here in the U.S. in 1986 on EMI America 46414 (simultaneously w/ its vinyl LP & cassette counterparts - bought the latter myself at the time). Page on Discogs, complete w/ photos: http://www.discogs.com/Kate-Bush-The-Whole-Story/release/4760809 - KATE BUSH - "The Whole Story" (U.S. CD) The Whole Story appears to now be out-of-print here in the U.S., but luckily, it isn't extremely hard to find. Here's a used copy currently listed on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kate-Bush-The-Whole-Story-CD-/251752543854?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item3a9d9ef66e - KATE BUSH - "The Whole Story" (U.S. CD) And here's a second: http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Whole-Story-by-Kate-Bush-CD-Nov-1986-EMI-Music-Distribution-/191464319407?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item2c9429a9af - KATE BUSH - "The Whole Story" (U.S. CD) (There's no question it's still very much in print as an import, anyway...) Side note/fun fact: A special collector's edition of this song's original parent album, 1985's Hounds of Love, was issued here in the U.S.; EMI America made a limited pressing of the LP on marbled vinyl. What most people don't know is that the label also made a special marbled CASSETTE version for us tape fans as well, which I always thought was pretty cool. Needless to say, it's much rarer than the vinyl LP, and yes, I have a couple copies myself. :-) Page for the cassette version on Discogs, w/ photos: http://www.discogs.com/Kate-Bush-Hounds-Of-Love/release/6197433 - KATE BUSH - "Hounds of Love" (U.S. marbled cassette) |
Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 12 June 2022 at 12:39pm
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BTW, thanks to Netflix this great 80s song is a US top 10
hit this week and number 2 in the UK. Pretty cool. ------------- Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida |
Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 13 June 2022 at 11:17pm
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YES!!!! VERY cool!!! Even if it's all about millions of
streams it's still the height of cool to see an 80s new wave classic revitalized by this, and introduced to a younger audience. Totally awesome! |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 14 June 2022 at 4:01am
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What's wild to me is that when I hear the song passively
(say on a store soundsystem or the radio) it doesn't sound *retro* for a song almost 37 years old! Despite the obvious LinnDrum programming it does not really feel dated. Maybe it's because it never got anywhere near overplayed in the US. Andy |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 14 June 2022 at 6:01am
Well, that could go down as the understatement of the week. I don't ever recall hearing it on the radio, I'm only aware of it from the video which got a lot of play on Boston's rock video tv station (the lamented, short-lived V66). |
AndrewChouffi wrote:Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 14 June 2022 at 7:47am
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Yes, Hykker, I was implying that our messageboard members
from other countries might totally disagree with my assessment because this track, I believe, reached the coveted overplayed status in many non-US territories and probably was getting continued broadcast as an "oldie". Andy |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 17 June 2022 at 4:47pm
So just to clarify there is: 5:42 - The 12'' version (On CD) 4:56 - The 45 and LP version (On CD) 3:23 - The Promo 45 (Not on CD) So which one is the "hit" in 2022? ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |
Posted By: NightAire
Date Posted: 17 June 2022 at 6:29pm
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I don't know for sure what if anything is being serviced to radio and mobile DJs, but on Amazon it's all the 45 / LP version and the first results on YouTube show the 45 / LP version too.
https://youtu.be/bV0RAcuG2Ao - The version used in the actual scene seems to be remixed, or rather extended out in some areas, to make it fit the scene better but I can't find a release to match that version. Discogs doesn't list a single release of the song in years. Amazingly, the https://www.amazon.com/Stranger-Things-Soundtrack-Netflix-Season/dp/B0B13TCSXC/ - soundtrack to the season won't be out until September, and if Amazon's streaming platform is any indication, it won't include Kate Bush! That's going to be a massive lost opportunity if true. ------------- Gene Savage http://www.BlackLightRadio.com - http://www.BlackLightRadio.com http://www.facebook.com/TulsaSavage - http://www.facebook.com/TulsaSavage Tulsa, Oklahoma USA |
Posted By: VWestlife
Date Posted: 17 June 2022 at 11:29pm
| Top Hits USA serviced the 45/LP version. They list it as 5:02 with a 26-second intro, at 109 BPM. |
Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 18 June 2022 at 5:45am
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This song was always a personal favorite. Not a lot of U.S. CHR airplay back in 1985, but it certainly got
lots of spins on my college radio station and of course, MTV played it quite a bit. Glad to see the renewed popularity. |
Posted By: NightAire
Date Posted: 18 June 2022 at 10:13am
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A friend reported, "Mediabase reported spins make it #48 on radio airplay. I'm not seeing it on either Mainstream Top 40 or Adult Top 40 on BDS Radio's site."
Another said our local alternative rock station ("The Edge") is playing it although I don't know how often. This appears to be almost all Spotify, iTunes Store, and YouTube. I love it!! ------------- Gene Savage http://www.BlackLightRadio.com - http://www.BlackLightRadio.com http://www.facebook.com/TulsaSavage - http://www.facebook.com/TulsaSavage Tulsa, Oklahoma USA |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 19 June 2022 at 10:07am
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Just checked AllAccess.com and here is the current chart
movement for Running Up That Hill. A/C - LW:39 TW:23 HOT A/C - LW:44 TW:30 TOP 40 - LW:59 TW:38 ALTERNATIVE - LW:36 TW:23 AAA - LW:43 TW:37 ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 19 June 2022 at 10:09am
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By the way, All Access lists the Mediabase airplay charts. ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 19 June 2022 at 10:31am
It's always nice when an 80's hit that should have hit Top 10 then surges back into the mainstream. It's a great song that should have charted higher than #30. ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |
Posted By: WWYW-FM
Date Posted: 21 June 2022 at 3:12pm
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Looks like someone just posted a video of the 1985 promo that runs about
3:23. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIuvzlcfxRk - 1985 promo Honestly, I'm surprised this isn't the one being serviced to radio - especially on today's Top 40/CHR stations. The average length of current tracks has come way down in recent years. |
Posted By: kaqueno
Date Posted: 21 June 2022 at 4:02pm
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Hi guys, I wanted to tell you that the music service
ProAudioUSA edited "Running Up That Hill" (2018 remaster version) a few weeks ago with a duration of 5:00 minutes and a couple of days ago in the single blast it delivered the edit version with a duration of 3:46, and As far as I know, promo 45 is shorter and runs at 3:23, can someone tell me what this edited version is about. Will it be an edited version from 1985? Released in the US or UK? - Kate Bush - Running Up That Hill (A Deal With God) (2018 Remaster) (E652) 5:00 - Kate Bush - Running Up That Hill (A Deal With God) [Radio Edit] (Single Blast - 6/18/22) 3:46 cheers ------------- Marcelo - Argentina https://www.mixcloud.com/marcelo-guzman4/ - https://www.discogs.com/user/kaqueno/collection |
Posted By: AdvprosD
Date Posted: 21 June 2022 at 7:49pm
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I gotta admit, I never quite warmed up to this song. However, Kate Bush wasn't on my list of artists to follow back then. I did however like the duet she did with Peter Gabriel, "Don't Give Up."
So, it's not so much that I didn't like her music, I just didn't take any time to explore her music away from Peter. Thanks for the link, WWYW-FM. I thought I was hearing the production of Michael Cretu and his wife Sandra in the background of that version. (I was a big fan of these two in the 90's.) I suppose a number of artists had an unexpected overlap of things sounding similar as so many electronic instruments were being discovered back then. ------------- <Dave> Someone please tell I-Heart Radio that St. Louis is not known as The Loo! |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 21 June 2022 at 8:01pm
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Yeah, the song doesn't do much for me, either, but it's interesting to see a 37-year-old song hit the top 5 on the Hot 100. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 22 June 2022 at 8:05am
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Supposedly, Pass The Dutchie received some renewed interest
recently but not to the level that Kate Bush has received. ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 22 June 2022 at 8:07am
That's regular Top 40 Music On CD forum contributor Gene Savage who posted that. ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 22 June 2022 at 8:34am
Wasn't my favorite back then either. The Hot 100 now is a reflection of what's the hottest streaming song. It's really turned into a popularity chart rather than how well a single sells as evidenced by the album bombs charting for a week from huge artists and then never seeing the light of day again... ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 22 June 2022 at 2:39pm
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The new 2022 edit trims the fade in a little bit and makes one other edit, cutting out the second verse and second chorus.
Starting with the file of your choosing, keep only 2.8 seconds of the synth fade in before the first drum beat (delete everything prior). Then remove 1:11 to 2:22 on the snare hit (the fourth beat of the measure in both places). Once you've made these edits, fade in the intro from 0:00 to 0:01.5. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 22 June 2022 at 2:41pm
Hasn't it always been a popularity chart? It's just measuring something different now (what people are actually listening to via streaming) as opposed to back then when it measured what radio stations were playing and what singles people were buying. Same basic idea but within the parameters of the times we live in. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 22 June 2022 at 8:29pm
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Promo Only just serviced the 'new' radio edit, running 3:45
and the full 5:00 LP version. This must be the edit Aaron references above. Too bad they couldn't have serviced the original 1985 radio edit. ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: AdvprosD
Date Posted: 23 June 2022 at 9:06am
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Sometimes, I get pulled in by the clickbait titles on the Professor Of Rock's youtube channel. I'm thinking I heard him comment on this Kate Bush comeback song.
I am guessing that this was mentioned earlier, but I actually did see the latest season of "Stranger Things" using Running Up That Hill in an episode. Is this what got all the chart activity going? I am not sure why I watch this show as horror isn't among my usual favorites. However, I do have a friend who really likes it and I like to have some stuff that's new to discuss from time to time. Next up, The Umbrella Academy... ------------- <Dave> Someone please tell I-Heart Radio that St. Louis is not known as The Loo! |