Single Versions on Import CDs
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Topic: Single Versions on Import CDs
Posted By: EdisonLite
Subject: Single Versions on Import CDs
Date Posted: 11 April 2005 at 11:09pm
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With the recent posts about the single versions of Billy Joel's "Piano Man" and Air Supply's "Every Woman In the World" being released on import CD, it gave me the idea that we should have a thread for single versions that are available ONLY on import CDs, since obtaining single versions is of interest to many of us. As I think of cases, I'll list them here. If others can contribute to the list, it would be greatly appreciated. One that comes to mind is:
BORDERLINE - MADONNA - Japan's 40 CD single box set |
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 11 April 2005 at 11:31pm
| The full-length single version of Jimmy Ruffin's "Hold On To My Love" is available on "25 Years of Rock 'n Roll: 1980", released in the UK. (I note this because the only US CD release of this song is the shorter version that was available only on promo singles.) |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 12 April 2005 at 8:00am
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Thanks for the heads up on the full-length single version of Jimmy Ruffin's "Hold on to My Love", EdisonLite. I'm amazed this early '80s Top 10 hit is still so rarely issued on CD after all these years!
It's also incredible to me the 45 versions of many hits by Madonna, a singles driven artist, are so hard to find on CD. Brian W. went into beautiful detail documenting where to find nearly all of them in his thread titled "Madonna - The 45 Versions on CD" found elsewhere on the message board. In addition to "Borderline", the Japanese CD single box set EdisonLite refers to is also the only place you can find the 45 versions of "Angel", "True Blue", Papa Don't Preach", and "La Isla Bonita" on CD. If you're fortunate enough to find a copy of this rare box set though, be prepared to shell out... well, a fortune. It will likely cost you upwards of over $400 for a used set! By the way, I would also be interested in locating '50s, '60s, and '70s Top 40 hits that have never appeared on a U.S. CD release, but have been issued on an import disc. If you're not sure if a song has ever been released on a U.S. disc, you can check on the "Top 40 Hits still not on cd in the US" message thread. All I ask is, please no references to bootleg or "gray area" CDs... only legitimate CD releases. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 12 April 2005 at 8:06am
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<Thanks for the heads up on the full-length single version of Jimmy Ruffin's "Hold on to My Love", EdisonLite. I'm amazed this early '80s Top 10 hit is still so rarely issued on CD after all these years! >
When I worked on Rhino's "Radio Daze: Pop Hits of the '80s", this was one of the songs we tried to get (and one of my top 5 wants!) but the licensing department was unable to license it. (I was never given a reason why.) |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 12 April 2005 at 8:16am
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Todd writes: <the Japanese CD single box set EdisonLite refers to is also the only place you can find the 45 versions of "Angel", "True Blue", Papa Don't Preach", and "La Isla Bonita" on CD.>
This statement got me curious about "La Isla Bonita" and "True Blue" (because I don't remember any differences) so I went back to the original Brian W. post that you referenced. He indicates no difference for "La Isla Bonita", and for "True Blue" he indicates that his blue vinyl and black vinyl 45s are the same as the LP version, and that the shorter 3:59 mystery version only appears on the Japanese box set and as a LISTING in Joel Whitburn's book (which Brian thinks may be a typo.) So can anyone confirm any differences for these 2 songs between the 45 pressings and LP pressings, and if so, what? (early fades?) Does anyone have the promo 45 of "True Blue", and is that where the short version actually appeared? |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 12 April 2005 at 8:24am
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EdisonLite:
Let me just say, I LOVED the Radio Daze: Pop Hits of the '80s series and was so disappointed that Rhino discontinued the series after five volumes. These discs are still the only place you can find certain MOR (middle-of-the-road) Top 40 hits, especially in 45 version form, and the sound quality is outstanding! "Hold on to My Love" would've been a nice addition on one of those CDs. Is there any chance Rhino could reconsider resurrecting the Radio Daze series? Used copies of the first five volumes often sell for between $20-$30 each, which is pretty high for various artist CDs. This tells me there must still be a demand! |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 12 April 2005 at 11:19am
Yes, the short version of "True Blue" is the U.S. radio edit, and also the single version in much of the world. Papa Don't Preach was the LP version on the US 45, at least on my copy, though the Japanese CD3 box also uses the radio edit. "La Isla Bonita"... mmm, as far as I know, the 45 used the LP version. There was a remix/edit, but I think it was only available on the flip side of the promo 45. There were three remix/edits from the "True Blue" album that have never shown up on CD, for the title track (which oddly was not on the promo, only the commercial 12"), "Open Your Heart," and "La Isla Bonita." |
EdisonLite wrote:Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 12 April 2005 at 2:51pm
And he is correct... While doing a very quick scan of Brian's "Madonna - The 45 Versions on CD" thread earlier today, I misread his entry on "La Isla Bonita". He says the Japanese "CD Single Collection" box set is the only place to get the Instrumental Remix B-side on CD, not the 45 version itself which of course is identical to the LP version. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 12 April 2005 at 4:25pm
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<EdisonLite:
Let me just say, I LOVED the Radio Daze: Pop Hits of the '80s series and was so disappointed that Rhino discontinued the series after five volumes.> Thanks, Todd. Believe me, I was disappointed, too. We had a listing for the next 5 volumes, which initially were going to be released 3 months after the first 5. Then it didn't happen, but a year later, we tried getting it going again. Then I found out it wasn't happening because Rhino couldn't license enough of the "A" songs. <Is there any chance Rhino could reconsider resurrecting the Radio Daze series? > It is highly unlikely. I've approached them about this every year. But I am getting a little interest from another label so we'll see what happens. |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 12 April 2005 at 5:10pm
| The label wouldn't be Varese Sarabande, would it? I could see them doing a series like Radio Daze. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 12 April 2005 at 6:09pm
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<The label wouldn't be Varese Sarabande, would it? I could see them doing a series like Radio Daze.>
Though I've done a few projects with them, No it's not them. Sorry, I can't really say what label until something becomes definite. |
Posted By: 80smusicfreak
Date Posted: 13 April 2005 at 6:12am
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Hey, EdisonLite - you can definitely add my name to the
list of fans of Rhino's "Radio Daze" series as well (didn't realize you were involved w/ that!). Interesting this came up here, as I just recently started adding those CDs to my collection (guess that means I'm among the ones helping to fuel that continued demand, as Todd suggested, lol)... I remember when the series first hit stores in '95. I've always been a fan of '70s and '80s V/A compilations (K-tel, Ronco, etc.), especially when they don't include the same old tired, recycled top 10 hits - and the "Radio Daze" series clearly featured many rarities. But as a fan of the cassette format, I was most disappointed when I saw that the label was Rhino. That's because in the early '90s, Rhino began a practice of always scr*wing us cassette buyers by leaving off several tracks on the tape versions of their collections, which I found extremely irritating. So for that reason, there was about a five-year period during the mid to late '90s where I basically boycotted anything from Rhino, and thus I passed on the "Radio Daze" series at the time... But then after buying Pat's book for the first time last Fall, while looking up many of my more obscure personal faves from the early '80s ("Three Times in Love" by Tommy James, "Who'll Be the Fool Tonight" by Larsen-Feiten Band, "King of the Hill" by Oak, among others), it became obvious that the "Radio Daze" series was well worth re-examining. Of course, some additional research quickly revealed that the entire series was now out-of-print, which didn't surprise me. And much to my disappointment, as Todd noted, I saw that the going rate on eBay for any of the volumes appeared to be in the $20-$30 range, and that was used! But even though I already had more than 90% of the songs in my collection on cassette already, I ultimately decided that the series had enough rarities and personal faves in it to justify paying that amount just to have the music on CD... So far, I've picked up "Vol. 1" and "Vol. 2", and sure enough, $20-$25 was what I had to pay for each. From those two, the only song I didn't already have in my collection was "I Still Have Dreams" by Richie Furay, and upon hearing it, I honestly can't say I remember it from back in the day (but I definitely like it!). Still looking to add the other three volumes, of course. And in the event you were responsible for getting any of the songs I named above included in this series, many thanks! :-) Yes, there definitely should've been many more volumes in the "Radio Daze" series! (Still waiting for more in Varese Vintage's "Lost 45's of the '70s & '80s" series and Renaissance's "Heard it on the Radio" series as well.) Good luck w/ that new label that's showing interest, as I'd certainly buy them, too, assuming the series would continue to cover the mid '70s to mid '80s. (I'd be more than happy to submit my own list of song picks, too!) And BTW, if you have any other stories/tidbits to share about the making of "Radio Daze" (other obscurities that Rhino tried for besides "Hold on to My Love", revealing the rest of your "top 5 wants" at the time, etc.), I'd be curious to hear... |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 06 May 2005 at 11:10pm
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80s Music Freak: For some reason, I never noticed your above post until today. (I don't know how I skipped it.) To answer your questions: "King of the Hill" by Oak, "Three Times in Love" by Tommy James, and "Who'll Be the Fool Tonight" by Larsen-Feiten Band were my choices, although my co-producer David was also wanting the 2nd and 3rd songs. I was the only one pushing for "King of the Hill." "I Still Have Dreams" was David's idea.
"Hold On To My Love", Chris Thompson's "If You Remember Me" and Rocky Burnette's "Tired of Toein' The Line" were basically all tied as my #1 wants for the series, and sadly the first two songs could not be licensed. Luckily, due to projects I had worked on previously at Varese Sarabande, I pushed for "If You Remember Me" to be included on the "Lost Hits of the '70s/'80s" series, and also did some serious digging to get to the bottom of who owned the master so that it could be properly licensed... and they were able to license it! The full version of "Hold On To My Love" has still never been released in the US, which is hard to believe, considering it's a top 10 hit in this country. Luckily, I have that version on an import CD. It was very unfortunate that we did not get to release the next 5 planned volumes, because songs like "Don't Give It Up" by Robbie Patton would have been included -- and in fact, many other songs that have never been released on CD. |
Posted By: 80smusicfreak
Date Posted: 07 May 2005 at 9:58am
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Thanks for the belated reply. Looks like the Wounded Bird
label is coming to the rescue again on May 31, as that is the date they're currently scheduled to release the CD re-issue of the Larsen-Feiten Band's two early '80s albums (self-titled and "Full Moon") on one CD, which will of course include "Who'll Be the Fool Tonight" - think I'll be picking that one up... :-) Ah, so you had a hand in Varese Vintage's "Lost 45's of the '70s & '80s" series as well, eh??? Absolutely loved that series as well, and still listen to both volumes regularly! :-) Great stuff - now I KNOW we need to convince that unspecified label to support your new project, lol... As for "Don't Give it Up" by Robbie Patton, I do already have that one on cassette, but have never seen it on CD. Another good song... |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 08 May 2005 at 10:29pm
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45 version sighting...
I believe I may have the 45 version of Electric Light Orchestra's "Strange Magic", which has yet to surface on a U.S. CD release. Here it appears on the import 2-CD set Light Years: The Very Best of Electric Light Orchestra (UK: Epic 489039 2) with a 4:05 run time and includes the song's complete introduction. The paper tray insert on the back of the CD case indicates: (7" Edit). The only thing is, Joel Whiburn lists the single version's run time at 3:22. Is he right, or is his time based on an incorrectly printed run time on the 45 record label? |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 09 May 2005 at 8:17am
| How did this 4:05 version differ from the full 4:29 version? I love this song, but I wasn't aware that the single was different. Also, is this mixed differently than the album version? |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 10 May 2005 at 9:20am
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I must apologize...
I compared the 4:05 version of "Strange Magic" on my Very Best of import CD to the one on my Electric Light Orchestra The Essential disc (Epic/Legacy 89072) and the two versions are exactly the same. I looked up The Essential CD in the 10th edition of T40MOCD and Pat comments that this 4:05 version is the "LP version but missing the :21 introduction". I guess I had never been aware of this :21 portion of the introduction until I downloaded and listened to the full 4:29 LP version for the first time last night. To conclude, "Strange Magic" is not the U.S. 45 version on the import CD. My apologies again for the false lead. Keep in mind though that the Very Best of import disc does state "Strange Magic" is the 7" edit. It's certainly possible the record label got this wrong, but then again I'm wondering if this 4:05 version without the :21 LP introduction could be the British or European 45 version? After all, it has appeared on several domestic CDs. Anyone know for sure? Edtop40 was gracious enough to e-mail me an MP3 copy of the U.S. 45 version of "Strange Magic". To recreate the 45 exactly from LP, you first need to make sure you have a copy of the full 4:29 LP version. First, edit out the :21 introduction. Next, remove a portion of the intro from the :05-:10 marks. Finally, snip out part of the chorus from 2:45-3:25. From my ELO Strange Magic - Best of domestic CD on Legacy/Epic 64157, I was able to make a perfect replica of the 45 version via my Audition 1.5 software. If anyone needs more details on precise edit points, feel free to send me a private message. |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 29 October 2005 at 10:43pm
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paul is a magician..........i just listened to the elo strange magic computer edit he made for me and it is perfect.....why can't these a**holes at the record companies do what todd did in a few minutes.......if anyone needs an edit of a cd to match a 45..........TODD IS THE MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 08 November 2005 at 9:24am
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I have two more which as far as I can tell are not available domestically (I may be wrong).
1. The (4:50) single version of Phil Collins' "Another Day In Paradise" is available on the UK Now 1989 CD. 2. Another Now CD, this one spotlighting 1995, has the radio edit of Sheryl Crow's "All I Wanna Do" (must have been a hit there then, as it was a hit in the U.S. a year earlier). I would think other of these year-by-year Now CDs would have a few, but there are occasional goofs along the way (most glaring--the 1985 version has Paul Hardcastle's "19" which is the 45 version minus a line very near the end, granted it's available domestically but you get the point). ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 08 November 2005 at 11:48am
| You are correct on the Sheryl Crow track appearing on Now: 1995. I also found the 45 version on a Mercury compilation (UPC: 731452535429) called Women For Women; however I don't know if it's an import or domestic release. By the way, the hit version that we are referring to is a remix and not just an edit of the LP version. |
Posted By: Moderator
Date Posted: 08 November 2005 at 7:35pm
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Indeed the "Women To Women" cd is a US issue and I have just entered "All I Wanna Do" by Sheryl Crow as the 45 version in the database so thanks for the tip. ------------- Top 40 Music On Compact Disc Moderator |
Posted By: Paul Esch
Date Posted: 17 November 2005 at 5:55pm
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Bill Black's Combo - "Hearts Of Stone," "Josephine," and
"Twist-Her" are available in their original mono versions on The Hi Masters (Cream/Hi HEX 31), released in the UK in 1998. I've ordered a Bill Black's Combo UK two-fer that claims to have a mono version of "Blue Tango" as well. Will let you know. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 18 November 2005 at 2:46pm
| Thanks for the tip, Paul! |
Posted By: Paul Esch
Date Posted: 19 November 2005 at 3:11pm
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Bill Black's Combo - The original mono version of "Blue Tango"
is available on the UK two-fer Bill Black's Greatest Hits/Bill Black Combo Goes West (Cream/Hi HILO 174), along with a mono "Old Buttermilk Sky." |
Posted By: Paul Esch
Date Posted: 13 December 2005 at 7:15pm
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Johnny Desmond - Both "Play Me Hearts And Flowers" and
"The Yellow Rose Of Texas" are now available on a 2005 British CD, The High And The Mighty (Sepia 1057). Both are original versions, and sound good (certainly better than my fifty-year-old Coral 45's). |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 13 December 2005 at 11:00pm
Yeah, but they're still taken from vinyl. His "Yellow Rose of Texas" was issued a year or two ago from a tape source on a Reader's Digest comp, "A Celebration of American Folk Music," which is still available from Collector's Choice and on Ebay. And of course "Play Me Hearts and Flowers" is on a couple different CDs. The import is definnitely the less expensive way to go, though. |
Posted By: Roscoe
Date Posted: 14 December 2005 at 9:42am
| You can find the 45 version of Belindar Carlisle's "Circle In The Sand" on the Now That's What I Call Music 1988 import. This was a good find since the 45 version is a different mix; you can't recreate the 45 version by editing the LP version. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 14 December 2005 at 11:20am
| Does anyone know if the single mix of Belinda Carlisle's "I Feel the Magic" can be found on any import CDs? |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 14 December 2005 at 3:09pm
| That Belinda Carlisle is a good find only if you actually like the song. *hehe* just kidding... Thanks for the tip. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 22 December 2005 at 9:37pm
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Okay, I finally got a copy of the Canadian "Bring on the Hits" from Ebay, and it does indeed have what appears to be the 45 version of "The Warrior," running 3:33.
It also appears it may have some unique 45 versions: --Pointer Sisters' "Neutron Dance," running 3:52. Is this the correct length for the single version? --Hall and Oates' "Method of Modern Love," running 4:02. --Bryan Adams "Somebody" at 3:58. Anyone familiar with the 45 versions of these songs, can you chime on whether these running times sound correct? |
Posted By: Roscoe
Date Posted: 22 December 2005 at 10:02pm
Those are pretty darn close to the 45 lengths, so you may have a winner. I can't remember where the edits are on "Neutron Dance" and "Somebody", but for the Hall & Oates track, there is an edit in the intro, so that the vocals start at about the :12 second mark. There's another edit later in the song so that the line "it's a modern love" modulating up occurs at about the 2:12 mark. That may help determine if you have the true 45 edit. |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 22 December 2005 at 11:10pm
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you got it..........i had one of the other members on this site make me a copy of these tracks and YES the indeed are the correct 45 versions........btw.........how much did you pay for that cd on ebay??? ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 23 December 2005 at 12:04am
Thanks, Ed! But you've known all three of these were on this CD all along and you haven't posted the info? For shame! What else are you hiding from us? ;)
Heh heh, $2.56. I offered the seller around 20 bucks for it if he'd close the auction and sell it to me outright, but he didn't want to do that... turned out mine was the only bid! |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 23 December 2005 at 6:49am
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LOL..........i'll make sure never again to withhold anything from you guys...... ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: Paul Esch
Date Posted: 19 February 2006 at 6:47am
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Johnnie Ray - The song "Yes, Tonight Josephine" is available
on Cry (Bear Family 15450) from 1990. Excellent sound, and, bucking Bear Family's usual trend, it's a single disc! |
Posted By: Paul Esch
Date Posted: 10 April 2006 at 3:39pm
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Gerry & The Pacemakers - Almost all of their Top 40 hits
(sorry, no "Girl On A Swing") are available in their mono versions on the British import A's B's & EP's (2004, EMI Gold 7243 5 96815 28). This CD also has the original 45 version of "I'll Be There", although at a 3:11 length. The 45 length is 2:49, and all one needs to do is to fade early to match it. It's beautiful sound on the CD, too. |
Posted By: Grant
Date Posted: 10 April 2006 at 4:58pm
| I'd love to get the 45 version of Tony Camillo's Bazuka's "Dynomite Pt. 1" on a long OOP Japanese A&M comp. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 10 April 2006 at 5:07pm
Funny you should mention that, Grant, because I wat JUST looking for that yesterday. Do you know the name and/or catalog number of the Japanese comp? |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 10 April 2006 at 6:49pm
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I downloaded an MP3 of "Dynomite" a long while back, but it came from a vinyl source with surface noise intact (I think I nabbed it off alt.binaries.mp3 when I was experimenting with one of those file download mechanisms that I wound up not deciding to own).
Anyone have the means to clean up vinyl recordings like that? The version of WavePad I have doesn't have that module. If so, I'd be happy for upload it for the class. ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: Grant
Date Posted: 10 April 2006 at 7:36pm
Well, first, I DID make a decent needle drop of the song, but, as clean as it is, i'm still not happy with it. Upload what you have. I do have the tools to clean and restore music. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 10 April 2006 at 10:58pm
| I tried re-creating the 45 version for Ed of "Dynomite (Part 1)" but I didn't have the correct version to work with. The only source Ed had was from The Best Disco In Town, which of course contains neither the 45 or LP version. The version on their disc is edited, but it's edited incorrectly. Some of the parts they edited out are needed to make the 45 version. If anyone has a CD copy of the LP version they can pass along to me, I can create the 45 version and send it out. |
Posted By: Grant
Date Posted: 11 April 2006 at 8:03am
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Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 11 April 2006 at 9:03am
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have you tried combining the parts that are not on the cd/lp version but on the 45 by combining them, then eq'ing them??? ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: Grant
Date Posted: 11 April 2006 at 10:07am
Hmmm...never thought of that. Perhaps when I get some time... |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 11 April 2006 at 10:36am
| There are definitely some tricky edits, especially at the breakdown. I may also be able to use Ed's 45 to splice in the parts that are missing from the LP. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 01 May 2006 at 2:07pm
| I just made an edit of the 45 version for "Dynomite" and Grant is correct. There is one vocal overdub on the 45 that is not present anywhere in the LP version. At (1:56), there's a vocal that says "yeah baby" that is nowhere to be found in the LP version. I may try tracking down a mint copy of the 45 to splice this part in. |
Posted By: PaulEschen
Date Posted: 20 December 2007 at 5:46pm
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Don Cornell - "Most Of All," "The Door Is Still Open" and "The Bible
Tells Me So", as well as all the other charting solo hits of his from 1950 -1957 are now available on the 2-CD set Most Of All (Jasmine JASCD 463). |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 20 December 2007 at 8:49pm
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Paul:
That's terrific news!! I've been looking for Don Cornell's '50s hits on CD and the only place I've been able to find anything is on the www.doncornell.com website. Unfortunately, those CDs are only available through the site and they cost an arm and a leg. Just to make sure... Does the Most of All disc set contain the original hit recordings, Paul? And how would you describe the sound quality? |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 20 December 2007 at 9:05pm
They are, but those are all transferred from vinyl. "Bible Tells Me So" and "Most of All" are available from the Don Cornell web site, digitally remastered from the original tapes by Marty Wekser, on this CD: http://www.doncornell.com/p3.htm - Don Cornell "I'll Be Seeing You" |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 20 December 2007 at 9:28pm
| Aw, then I'm passing on the Jasmine discs. Bummer. I guess it's just a matter of time before I break down and shell out the $45 for the 2 CD set on the Don Cornell website. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 20 December 2007 at 11:12pm
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Yeah, Jasmine is one of those UK labels that issues public domain copyright-expired recordings from needle drops. (I'm sure we all know, but for those who don't, copyright in the UK, Australia, and Europe is only 50 years, so everything from 1957 on is now public domain in those countries.)
Jasmine used to do really good work, but I think in the past few years they've gotten really excessive with the noise reduction. Generally stuff on the ASV label sounds better THESE DAYS, though that situation used to be the reverse. It could sound good, though... I haven't heard this particular disc. |
Posted By: PaulEschen
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 7:50am
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It does sound very good, but there's no mention of using original master
tapes, nor mention of using original vinyl in the liner notes. The only notation about engineering on this set is that digital processing was done by Tall Order Mastering. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 11:36am
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Glad it sounds good, Paul! That's what's important.
Labels like Jasmine usually don't list the source material, but they are all unlicensed (though legal) transfers from records. They are a great source for material that has never been issued on a licensed CD. |
Posted By: PaulEschen
Date Posted: 11 January 2008 at 1:48pm
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Jane Powell - Ms. Powell's hit "True Love" from 1956 is now
available on the CD True Love (Flare SPEC 1033). There is no mention of the source, but digital remastering is credited to James Irvin. And it sounds wonderful. |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 11 January 2008 at 9:37pm
Paul: Does it sound like Jasmine used its usual noise reduction on this CD (thus resulting in a loss of the high end)? If not, I'm wondering if the label simply dubbed digital copies of tracks from the CDs available on Don Cornell's website? Also, that's great news to hear Jane Powell's "True Love" has finally surfaced on CD! It's one of six Billboard Top 15 hits from 1955-1959 I don't yet have in digital! |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 12 January 2008 at 12:10am
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**This just in!** Jane Powell's "True Love" will also be surfacing on the upcoming ERIC/Hit Parade Records CD Hard To Find Jukebox Classics 1957: Pop Gold, which is currently scheduled for a February 18 release date. What's especially exciting about this disc is that 11 songs on this compilation are reported to be making their official U.S. CD debut!! I imagine Pat will want to review this CD for the website, so I'll try not to steal too much thunder here. But I'll go ahead and spill the beans on two of those "first-time-ever-on-CD" Top 40 hits:
Perry Como - The Girl with the Golden Braids Jim Lowe - Four Walls ERIC/Hit Parade Records also has another CD release slated for February 18 called Hard To Find Jukebox Classics 1957: Rhythm & Rock. |
Posted By: PaulEschen
Date Posted: 12 January 2008 at 7:40am
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I compared "I'm Yours" from both Most Of All and Something To
Remember Me By (the CD mastered by Marty Wekser), and there is just a teeny tiny less high end on Most Of All, but nothing to make it obviously muffled or duller. I don't have the equipment to analyze, but if the Jasmine disc was mastered from vinyl, or even non-original tapes, they've done an excellent job. Brian W. could be right, though, in that I think Jasmine would probably trumpet using original source tapes in its liner notes if they had access to them. By the way, I should also mention that I picked up a German CD of Will Glahe, called Will Glahe und sein Orchester Vol. 2 on Membran Music that does NOT, repeat, does NOT have the US hit version of "Liechtensteiner Polka." (Oh yah? Oh no!) It has a version listed from 1955 that is instumental only. |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 12 January 2008 at 12:55pm
I appreciate your sound quality analysis, Paul. I'm wondering if Jasmine may have mastered the Don Cornell tracks from existing CD sources and EQed it with a slightly less high end.
You may have just given yourself one more reason to pick up the upcoming Hard To Find Jukebox Classics 1957: Pop Gold CD, Paul! ;-) |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 12 January 2008 at 1:45pm
| The Eric/Hit Parade CDs are primarily needle drops too. Canadian copyright is same as in the UK -- that's why these Eric/Hit Parade CDs are being issued in Canada. |
Posted By: PaulEschen
Date Posted: 23 August 2008 at 5:14am
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Greg Guidry--"Goin' Down"
For those who may not be aware of it, Guidry's 1982 LP Over The Line, which contains both this hit and his other charting song "Into My Love", is available as a Japanese import CD (Sony Records International SICP 8058). It's pricey, but available. (Aah, another one off the list!) |
Posted By: satchdr
Date Posted: 14 October 2008 at 11:43pm
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Although this is likely old news to many of you, Paul McCartney's 1986 "Spies Like Us" is available on import CD on MPL/Parlophone 0777 7 892692 4 - "Press To Play" from that label's "The Paul McCartney Collection." It is one of two bonus tracks on the digital remaster of "Press To Play," as it was recorded during the same session as the rest of the album. Interestingly enough, I found out about the CD location of "Spies Like Us" through Wikipedia.
Like many of you, I am very interested in finding any of the Top 40 songs not available on domestic CD that are available on import CD. Actually, I like to find the LP versions of these songs (if there are both 45 and LP versions) because in many (although certainly not all) cases, the LP version was really the original rendering of the song by the artist before it was edited for 45 release. |
Posted By: abagon
Date Posted: 16 October 2008 at 8:14am
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satchdr's "MPL/Parlophone 0777 7 892692 4" is probably an U.K. pressing. My "Press To Play" CD that Japan releases is including "Spies Like Us" as the extra track.
"Press To Play" by PAUL McCARTNEY (Japan releases in 1993) 2,300yen (approximately $20) CD+Cover+Instruction in Japanese with lyrics+Obi 
I feel that CDs of Japanese pressings are expensive. As the one of the reasons, the lyric translation sheet and instruction book in Japanese are mostly contained in the CDs. I know that outside U.S. CDs are costly in U.S. online stores. However, the prices of CDs that Japan releases are more expensive than the outside-Japan CDs at the used CD stores in Japan. Because most of Japanese are needing the lyric translation sheet and instruction bbook in Japanese. --abagon |
Posted By: PaulEschen
Date Posted: 18 June 2009 at 3:16pm
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Dave Edmunds - "I Hear You Knocking"
The mono single version is available on the import CD Rockpile (2001, Repertoire 4966), as well as his hard-to-find follow-up "I'm Coming Home." |
Posted By: Indy500
Date Posted: 18 June 2009 at 8:07pm
Cool, just snapped one up on Amazon. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 22 March 2010 at 10:59am
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Found Norman Greenbaum's "Spirit in the Sky" in mono on the 2003 Virgin/EMI import "The Best One Hit Wonders in the World...Ever!" (VTDCD 497 7243 8 13207 2 3)
I don't think I own the 45, but I folded the stereo version on "Billboard's Top Rock 'N' Roll Hits 1970" to compare it, and I don't think the Virgin CD is a fold-down. It's hard to tell, but in the instrumental sections of the song between the chorus, the instrumentation seems to get much more aggressive-sounding than on the folded stereo version. The bass seems louder and the drums seem punchier in those sections. It also seems like the vocal may be a tad lower in volume on the mono version, but it's hard to tell. |
Posted By: PaulEschen
Date Posted: 03 February 2011 at 5:01pm
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Eddie Fisher
All of Eddie's Top 40 singles (including "Without You") can be found on the British CD Song Of The Dreamer - Hits & Highlights (Blue Orchid BLUE108CD) from 2008. Most of the songs sound fine, but beware if anyone is looking for a CD copy of "Don't Stay Away Too Long", the flip of "Song Of The Dreamer": the version here is extremely muffled and processed, with no fidelity. I don't understand this, as even my old stratchy 45 sounds brighter than whatever copy they used. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 03 February 2011 at 9:07pm
Surely that's a gray area release mastered from disc dubs, unless there's a notation in the copyright that it's licensed from BMG. If not, they likely bootlegged legitimate CD releases. I think all his hits are on the 2-disc Taragon CD, aren't they? |
Posted By: PaulEschen
Date Posted: 05 February 2011 at 7:21am
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You're right, there's no mention of BMG on the cover, while there is mention
of using "original source material, including Shellac and Vinyl." And the Taragon CD does not have "Without You." |
Posted By: Fetta
Date Posted: 22 April 2011 at 9:38am
Edisonlite.... Is there anything else worthwhile (with regards to hard to find 45 versions) on this CD? |
Posted By: PaulEschen
Date Posted: 17 May 2011 at 3:17pm
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Eric Burdon & The Animals - Monterey
The mono single version of this song is available on the UK import The Twain Shall Meet (2004, Repertoire 1022). This CD also has the UK mono single version of Sky Pilot (Pts. One & Two). |
Posted By: PaulEschen
Date Posted: 03 July 2011 at 8:16am
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The Association
As mentioned by Brian W. in the 'More Mono Finds' thread, the mono single versions of "Along Comes Mary" and "Cherish" are available on the UK import And Then...Along Comes The Association (1966, 2011 Now Sounds CRNOW 25). Also, this company has released Birthday (1968, 2010 Now Sounds CRNOW 15), which has mono versions of "Everything That Touches You" (actual time 3:17) and "Time For Livin'" (2:44). JimCT stated in his post for "Everything..." that his 45's actual time is 3:14, so I can't address the possible speed issue, as I don't have the original 45. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 03 July 2011 at 10:05am
I still have not found a copy of this in a store! I guess I'm to have to order it from Amazon. By the way, Now Sounds revealed on the Steve Hoffman site that they will release expanded mono editions of The Association's "Insight Out" and "Rennaisance" albums later this summer. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 03 July 2011 at 10:06am
| And, of course, as I posted in its own thread, the long-lost 45 version of "The Chipmunk Song" has just been released on the UK import, "The London American Label Year by Year - 1958," in excellent sound from a good tape source. |
Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 05 May 2014 at 2:53pm
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The hit 1964 MGM 45/LP edit of the Animals' "House Of The Rising Sun" has finally surfaced on CD, via Warner Music Japan's Parlophone label (the uncut HOTRS was not issued by MGM until about a year later.) Listed as "The House Of The Rising Sun (edit version)," it is the last of eleven bonus tracks on The Animals (WPCR-15413) with an actual time of 3:00. Though nowhere near being brickwalled, the disc is mastered a hair on the loud side.
Also new from Warner Japan/Parlophone: both the European and U.S. versions of "We've Gotta Get Out Of This Place" are included on Animal Tracks (WPCR-15414), with the latter U.S. version bonus track - listed as "We've Gotta Get Out Of This Place (alternate take)" - clocking in at an actual 3:14. Sonically, this one runs loud. The Animals' 2004 Abkco Retrospective collection is a better choice for the U.S. 45/LP version. And for those who prefer the non-U.S. worldwide hit, stick with the Animals' old warhorse 1987 EMI U.K. The Singles Plus disc (CDP 7 46605 2), which still has the best-sounding "House Of The Rising Sun," IMO. |
Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 05 May 2014 at 3:35pm
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That's interesting news on the US 45 edit of "House Of The Rising Sun." I have a wav file of the edit that sounds very good (it's from a mint US album which contained the same edit). If you have never heard the US single version it has two obvious edits which might just be the worse edits ever done on a number one hit. ------------- Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 07 May 2014 at 12:49am
Unfortunately, it's a disc dub, and a really bad one at that. |
Posted By: PaulEschen
Date Posted: 01 June 2015 at 4:25pm
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S.O.S. Band - Take Your Time (Do It Right) (Part 1)
The US commercial single version of this song (3:51) is available on an EU box set called The Tabu Anthology (2014 Demon/Tabu TABUBOX0003). The box has an entire disc of 7" mixes according to liner notes, but the band's hit is the only single I own, so I cannot compare the rest. |
Posted By: Robert
Date Posted: 27 November 2017 at 5:24pm
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I thought I'd jump right in on the Eddie Fisher discussion (before it got to be what - 6 years old?)...
Unless I missed something during that time, the correct 45 version of "Downhearted" has also yet to appear on CD anywhere. The Taragon version as well as the one on the Song Of The Dreamer - Hits & Highlights (Blue Orchid BLUE108CD)CD are alternates. The easiest way to spot the alternate is at the :50 mark, where the correct version's phasing is "...I lost the truest love I'll ever know..." The version on both CDs is "...I lost the truest love (pause) I'll ever know" and a higher note on the word "I'll." The only place I've seen the correct version is on the old RCA 45. Does anyone know of an LP where the correct version might be? Greatest Hits/reissues that I have contain the alternate version. Was there even an old LP that might have it? No hurry on this - obviously... |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 28 November 2017 at 12:39pm
It's a disc dub on that particular CD. Apparently they couldn't find the US 45 master. Fortunately Eric Records found it and used it on a "Hard to Find 45s" volume last year. |
Posted By: Paul C
Date Posted: 15 December 2017 at 11:59am
Thanks for pointing this out, Robert. I'd never noticed before that the Taragon version is not the hit version. Apart from the 45 and the Taragon CD, the only other place I have the song is on the German Eddie Fisher's Greatest Hits vinyl album, which I believe was issued some time in the 1980s, and it is also the alternate take. So it looks like the hit version has been MIA for a long time. |