Little Sister-"Somebody’s/You’re The One"
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Topic: Little Sister-"Somebody’s/You’re The One"
Posted By: jimct
Subject: Little Sister-"Somebody’s/You’re The One"
Date Posted: 06 May 2007 at 12:14am
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My "Somebody's Watching You" commercial 45, which is mono, has a listed
time of (2:46), but an actual time of (2:55). |
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Posted By: Indy500
Date Posted: 29 January 2011 at 6:17pm
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The other Little Sister song in the database, "You're the One" shows (part 2) as being the hit. According to Top Pop Singles the charting version in 1970 was (part 1).
Can someone verify which side was the hit. |
Posted By: TomDiehl1
Date Posted: 29 January 2011 at 7:47pm
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Billboard Magazine didn't specify which side was the charter, in what I've been able to find in searching their back issues online.... ------------- Live in stereo. |
Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 29 January 2011 at 9:06pm
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I always wondered why Eric Records released both Part 1 & Part 2 combined of "You're The One" instead of just one side or the other. ------------- Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida |
Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 30 January 2011 at 4:54am
You must have an older version of Top Pop Singles. The last couple of editions have shown Part II as the "hit" side. |
Indy500 wrote:Posted By: Indy500
Date Posted: 30 January 2011 at 10:02am
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I do actually. 1955-1993 and it's actually in two halves now. lol
Thanks for confirming. |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 10 June 2012 at 6:46pm
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with regards to the little sister song "somebody's watching
you"...if you slow the cd version from below down to 73.50 bpm's, you'll effectively match the vinyl 45 speed and length of 2:54.... (S)(2:51)Eric 11524 Hard To Find 45s On CD: Sweet Soul Sounds ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 10 June 2012 at 6:51pm
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with regards to the other little sister song "you're the
one", the billboard book of top 40 hits issued by watson- guptill states part 1 as the charting version.....paul haney, can you confirm that part 1 was the hit.... ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 11 June 2012 at 2:49am
Ed, you must have an older edition of that book. We've since changed it to Part II as the "hit" side. |
Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 11 June 2012 at 2:46pm
I can help with that: Bill Buster researched a thread about it, i thought it was on this board, but i can't find it - so it may have been at the BSN site, or Hoffman, not sure it's been so long. Bottom line was, it seemed split down the middle as some folks heard Part 1 in their market, while others heard Part 2. It varied wildly throughout the country. Well, the obvious solution was to release the entire unedited version, since either part can be extracted from it. Yes, it's really long, but that way was no one was left out. MM |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 11 June 2012 at 3:50pm
paul, you're right about the old book...i was looking at watson-guptill 6th edition of the top 40 hits book and i do see it was changed to part 2 in the 9th edition.....BUT....in the billboard 2005 hot 100 annual book on page 244 it still says part 1....you might want to make a note for future editions.....or was it changed in a more recent issuance.... ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: mstgator
Date Posted: 11 June 2012 at 4:03pm
I can answer that one... the 8th edition of Pop Annual (released a few months ago) is corrected to show Part II. |
Posted By: davidclark
Date Posted: 11 February 2013 at 11:14am
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can anyone indicate how Part 1 ends and how/where Part 2 begins? I would
like to create them from the Eric CD. thanks. ------------- dc1 |
Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 11 February 2013 at 3:16pm
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OK
It's been a few years but here's what i know: The change-over in the long version is at exactly 3:28. I don't have the exact 45 anymore, but from memory part 1 runs 3:15, and from the long version simply fade from around 3 minutes until 3:15. for part 2, there is no fade in, it picks up right at the 3:28 mark in the long one. It cuts in abruptly when they yell at the "Aahhhhh" part. So you would use from there to the end for part 2. Addl. details about the 45 fades and run-time are welcome... MM |
Posted By: davidclark
Date Posted: 11 February 2013 at 9:56pm
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thanks Markie.
There doesn't seem to be an LP for this band. Is the Eric CD the first time stereo? Also, is it first time the parts are presented together? Also, the complete version contains several seconds not present on either side of the 45, according to Markie's timings. Note the a-side of the 45 states a run time of 3:30. ------------- dc1 |
Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 11 February 2013 at 11:53pm
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My timings are from faded memory .. hopefully someone has
the actual run times. David, yes, this release was first time stereo and first time released as one long take. As far as i recall, the raw stereo tape was found by Bill Inglot when he was in a vault looking for something else. I'm just glad it came up for use someplace. So yes, there might be a few seconds of audio just after part one would have faded that we don't hear on the 45, but there's nothing much unique there to hear. I just remember we timed it out, because some folks were sure they heard one or the other parts in their area, we made sure both parts were present. |
Posted By: Paul C
Date Posted: 18 February 2013 at 3:10pm
| I timed Part 1 of "You're The One" at (3:30) and Part 2 at (3:13). There is a mono version of the song on the Ace UK CD, Listen To The Voices - Sly Stone In The Studio - 1965-70, that runs (5:21). It is missing the last part of Part 1 and the first part of Part 2. The Ace CD also has "Somebody's Watching You" in mono. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 18 February 2013 at 3:41pm
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Great info, Paul! Do they sound like vinyl dubs, or were they taken from master tapes? Also, how much of "You're The One" is missing? ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: Paul C
Date Posted: 18 February 2013 at 5:43pm
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They definitely don't sound like vinyl dubs to me, Aaron.
I've tried to conduct a more accurate comparison of the version of "You're The One" on the Ace CD and the 45, and it now appears to me that the Ace version switches from Part 1 to Part 2 at (2:09) and then continues with all of Part 2. (So I now believe that my statement above that the first part of Part 2 is missing is incorrect.) It is a bit difficult to tell for sure, however, since the segment of Part 1 that starts at (2:09) is so similar to the first segment of Part 2 that it's hard to tell which segment is on the Ace CD. (The two segments sound so similar to me that it wouldn't surprise me if it's actually the same piece of tape.) The very last segment of Part 1 is definitely not on the Ace CD. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 18 February 2013 at 8:32pm
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If there is any way you could send the file for me to hear, that would be
excellent :) ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: davidclark
Date Posted: 18 February 2013 at 11:39pm
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Paul, can you describe the Part 1 fade? ------------- dc1 |
Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 19 February 2013 at 10:24pm
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David,
i can jump in here also, as Ed just sent me the dubs of both part 1 and 2. The fade on part 1 starts around 3:05, is long and slow, with final audio disappearing at 3:30. Now, you may notice that doing that from the Eric cd, that makes the beginning of Part 2 audible at the tail end. Yet, on the 45, those last 2 seconds are different, they sound like the same groove as just before there but continuing on. (if you understand that...) I'm not sure why, other than for the mono mix, they edited that final portion differently. For Paul C: i agree that i think they used segments of this song more than once. The long version to me always sounded like an extended version of a shorter take. Also - Ed's copy for Part 1 agrees with yours; (3:30). But for Part 2 - can you double check your timing of (3:13)? ... i checked again and my copy (Ed's copy) for Part 2 is completely finished at (3:11). For David: when creating Part 2 from the CD, the CD version finishes 2 secs sooner at the fade. It's possible that audio was on the tape but that it was so low at that point we faded it out. I'm not sure. MM |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 04 November 2014 at 3:29pm
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my commercial 45 for the little sister song 'somebody's
watching you' issued as stone flower 9001 lists the run time on the label as 2:46 but actually runs 2:54... ------------- edtop40 |