Print Page | Close Window

Gordon Lightfoot-"Sundown"

Printed From: Top 40 Music on CD
Category: Top 40 Music On Compact Disc
Forum Name: Chat Board
Forum Description: Chat away but please observe the chat board rules
URL: https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2149
Printed Date: 30 April 2025 at 1:30am
Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 12.07 - https://www.webwizforums.com


Topic: Gordon Lightfoot-"Sundown"
Posted By: jimct
Subject: Gordon Lightfoot-"Sundown"
Date Posted: 30 May 2007 at 4:23am
My commercial 45, which is stereo, has a listed time of (3:37), but an actual time of (3:33).



Replies:
Posted By: RichM921
Date Posted: 07 October 2011 at 4:52pm
I was just reading a review on Amazon for his "Complete Greatest
Hits" CD and the review stated that the compilation uses the single
mix for Sundown which apparently differs from the LP version. This is
news to me. How does the single differ from the album?


Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 07 October 2011 at 5:24pm
The single mix has a more
pronounced time-delayed
reverb on the drums & the
lead guitar is mixed a little
louder.

Andy


Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 07 October 2011 at 9:14pm
All Gordon Lightfoot CD comps except the last one have a
remix of "Sundown". Many times, "Single Version" is on the
CD because that's the way it appears on the master tape
box.

-------------


Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 08 October 2011 at 7:10am
So what is the story with this one, exactly? The database indicates no different versions at all. Is the "remix" the actual single version or an alternate version? That would seem quite odd, if what Hits Man says is true, that all versions on CD (except the last listing) is not the single or album version, but a remix.


Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 08 October 2011 at 7:28am
The versions released on CD before 'Complete Greatest Hits' was released sure sound exactly like the mix on my vinyl LP 'Sundown'.

The version on 'Complete Greatest Hits' sounds like the 45 mix.

It is not a drastic difference, but the 45 is a "better" mix.

Andy


Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 15 December 2014 at 9:02pm
The double disc set "Easy 70s" also has the 45 mix, so Pat may want to update the database. The difference in reverb is subtle to my ears, but when doing a comparison, the single does have a more time-delayed reverb on the drums.

-------------
Aaron Kannowski
http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound
http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop


Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 16 December 2014 at 7:45pm
I'm still surprised to learn that the 45 and LP versions were mixed differently, 40 years after the song came out.

LP mix

My preferred version for the LP mix is Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 15 1974 Take Two (1991), where it sounds superb. Excellent dynamic range, great EQ, and not a hint of NR on the fade. It runs 3:32 here. The same analog transfer is used for:
  • Rhino's Mellow Rock Hits Sundown (1997; absolute polarity inverted, but that doesn't affect sound quality)
  • Time-Life's Singers And Songwriters Vol. 31 Classics (2001; digitally identical)
The version on Gord's Gold has great dynamic range and a nice EQ as well, but has a tape azimuth alignment error that makes the track sound warbly when summed to mono (listen for the tamborine). The same analog transfer is used for:
  • TM Century's GoldDisc 211 (also includes noise reduction, adding to the problems here)
45 mix

The version on Razor & Tie's 2-CD Easy '70s (1993) runs about 0.7% too fast, has great dynamic range and nice EQ, but also has a tape azimuth alignment error that makes the track sound warbly when summed to mono.

Much better is Complete Greatest Hits, where it runs at the correct speed, has great dynamic range, nice EQ, and has no sum-to-mono issues. It runs 3:37 here.

-------------
There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past .



Print Page | Close Window

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.07 - https://www.webwizforums.com
Copyright ©2001-2024 Web Wiz Ltd. - https://www.webwiz.net