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Topic: Promo 45 versions
Posted By: eriejwg
Subject: Promo 45 versions
Date Posted: 24 June 2007 at 9:43pm
I am on a mission to locate as many promo 45 versions as I can. I've compiled a list, and am searching brick and mortars, ebay, musicstack, gemm etc. I already own these in their LP versions on CD.

If any of you can tell me if the promo 45 edits can be recreated (early fades etc.), much appreciated.

Allman Brothers - Ramblin' Man (3:36)
Bloodstone - Natural High (3:02)
Buoys - Timothy (with the edited lyrics)
Chapin, Harry - W O L D (4:01)
Dire Straits - Sultans Of Swing (4:44)
Dylan, Bob - Tangled Up In Blue (3:27)
Heart - Barracuda (3:23)
Heart - Straight On (4:09)
Jethro Tull - Locomotive Breath (3:03) ("balls" replaced with "fun")
Lennon, John - #9 Dream (2:54)
McCartney & Wings - Band On The Run (3:50)
Moody Blues - Isn't Life Strange (4:30)
Moody Blues - Nights In White Satin (3:13)
Raydio - Jack & Jill (3:29)



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Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 7:05am
I'm pretty sure "Barracuda" is just a very early fade (as "Magic Man" was). I'm also pretty sure "Jack And Jill" was also an early fade.

I tried making a custom edit of "Locomotive Breath." It was tough, and I'm not sure I got it quite right (but it is indeed replacing the "alls" in the lyrics with the "un"). The only other catch is that there's some bleedover in the intro to the guitar riff--the DJ 45 may start clean (I'm not totally sure--I don't have it on vinyl, nor do I have a turntable to play it on even if I did--my source was a WCFL aircheck from Reelradio).

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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 9:26am
No, actually "Jack and Jill" was an edit, as Jim pointed out on this site recently. In the database it was listed as an early fade, but Jim said that the intro is significantly shorter on the dj 45. I don't know if there are other edits, too.


Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 11:16am
Originally posted by EdisonLite EdisonLite wrote:

No, actually "Jack and Jill" was an edit, as Jim pointed out on this site recently. In the database it was listed as an early fade, but Jim said that the intro is significantly shorter on the dj 45. I don't know if there are other edits, too.


Well, if it's not on Page 1, it's lost to me forever. :)

Seriously, thanks for the clarification.

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Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 12:16pm
Using the search function, I found the post on Raydio's "Jack and Jill."

Using what was mentioned about a :17 intro, and using the time of the promo mentioned in the database of 3:39, I created what I think may be close to the promo edit. Not sure though...



Posted By: gnj1958@sbcglob
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 12:20pm
I have Jack & Jill on three different CD's.

The Best of Ray Parker Jr & Raydio

Classic Soul

100 All Time Dance Hits of the 70's

The "Best of" version I assume is the album version which clocks in at 4:38. The two compilation versions are identical and both clock in at 3:39. The intro is shorter. The body of the song is the same then the last minute or so of the song is edited at various places bringing the oohs and aahh's and yeah yeah's closer together.

As far as Sultans of Swing. I used to have a rock compilation that had this song on it and at the end where Mark says "goodnight ... now it's time to go home" this version had "goodnight THANK YOU .. now it's time to go home" and had a much longer solo at the end than what is on the album. I've never heard this version since.


Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 2:18pm
Originally posted by gnj1958@sbcglob gnj1958@sbcglob wrote:

The body of the song is the same then the last minute or so of the song is edited at various places bringing the oohs and aahh's and yeah yeah's closer together..


LOL, I got the intro right, but the rest of the song leading up to 3:39 sounds different.

Well, my promo 45 has been ordered...now on to the rest of my list! :)


Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 9:17pm
To: gnj1958@sbcglob

*Classic Soul
*100 All Time Dance Hits of the 70's

Can you give us the label, #, and country of these 2 releases (as they are clearly imports)?

And are you saying both of these CDs have the 17 second intro?



Posted By: gnj1958@sbcglob
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 11:16pm
You're right they are both UK releases and both have the 17 sec intro.

100 All Time Dance Hits of the 70's - Connoissseur Collection DHOS CD100 (5 disc set) released in 1988.

Classic Soul - Warner Music UK/BMG MIDCDW 038 released in 1999.


Posted By: Bill Cahill
Date Posted: 26 June 2007 at 6:27pm
As far as I know:

Ramblin Man is just an early fade so, yes, but you need to be at the 45 speed.

Bloodstone yes it's just a chop.

Buoys you can recreate the bleeped version but of course you can't recreate the revised lyric.

Locomotive Breath.. I have the promo, it's just a chop to make BALLS into BUN. And not a very good one. You can actually improve it a bit.

Band on the Run.. yes

Isn't Life Strange.. yes

Nights in White Satin.. yes, you need to chop from the 4:29 mix though.

Bill


Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 26 June 2007 at 8:24pm
Allman Brothers - Ramblin' Man (3:36)
Chapin, Harry - W O L D (4:01)
Heart - Barracuda (3:23)
Lennon, John - #9 Dream (2:54)
McCartney & Wings - Band On The Run (3:50)
Moody Blues - Isn't Life Strange (4:30)
Moody Blues - Nights In White Satin (3:13)

These are the only promos I haven't purchased yet. In Ramblin' Man, when does the fade start to 3:36? And yes, I have it in 45 speed from "Sound Of The Seventies - 1973"


Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 11 July 2007 at 9:35pm
Well, the list to locate is down to: Band On The Run, Nights In White Satin at 3:13 and Isn't Life Strange promo edits.

I heard a copy of Barracuda and prefer the stereo LP version. Was able to create my own edits of WOLD, Ramblin' Man and Locomotive Breath. The Tull edit was a simple cut and paste in Audition.



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