Rivers of Babylon - Boney M
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Topic: Rivers of Babylon - Boney M
Posted By: EdisonLite
Subject: Rivers of Babylon - Boney M
Date Posted: 07 July 2007 at 9:17am
| I was told that the Eric Release of "Hard-To-Find Classics" contains the true single edit of "Rivers of Babylon". But it's rumored that the version on BMG Heritage's "Greatest Hits" is a failed attempt at creating the single edit due to the fact that the ad libs at the end of the song do not match up. I only have the Eric release, and the database has no details. Pat, can you (or someone with both CDs) verify whether this rumor is true or not? |
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Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 07 July 2007 at 11:15am
| You are correct in that the 45 version of Rivers Of Babylon appears on the Eric cd but what I just discovered is that the BMG Heritage cd contains the LP version of Rivers Of Babylon. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 07 July 2007 at 11:37am
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Good -- another unique single version identified. And available on CD!
Thanks to MMathews for pointing this out to me. |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 07 July 2007 at 12:54pm
| Nice work, Gordon! I keep wondering how many more 45 and LP version/length differences still exist out there that are not yet accounted for in the database. I'm guessing we have at least 90% of them currently documented, though it's amazing how often we still continue to uncover new 45/LP discrepencies! |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 03 May 2008 at 9:27pm
| Guys, my commercial 45 of "Rivers Of Babylon" has a listed time of (4:16), but an actual time of (4:20), with deadwax info of "WAA-7948-S-WW2". Since (4:20) happens to be the exact time of the currently-described "LP Version", while the "45 Version" on that Eric CD runs only (4:17), it appears to me that an :03 time variance still exists here. Was the Eric CD version simply faded slightly earlier than my 45? Or was more than one commercial 45 issued here? |
Posted By: smvceo
Date Posted: 05 May 2008 at 9:35am
| Allow me to clarify that when I mastered the ERIC release containing "Rivers of Babylon," we had a working relationship with Warner's, who bought Sire from Seymour Stein. Sire had licensed the track from Hansa, the German label that owned it, for American release. At the time we were compiling the ERIC release, BMG owned the track, so even though it was licensed from BMG, Warner gave us the master for the Sire 45, which is what we used on the ERIC compact disc. Hopefully, my statement here will put this issue to rest for once and for all. |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 05 May 2008 at 2:15pm
| Tom, I know I speak for many of us on the Board when I say "Thank Goodness For Eric CD's!" Your work on the Eric CDs is always outstanding, and it has filled in numerous "45 version gaps" that would no doubt still exist, were it not for you, Mr. Buster & Co. It's also great when you're able to pop on here to Pat's Board. The absolute LAST thing I want to do is to raise a question here. I do believe that the "master acquisition info" you just posted to be 100% accurate. Everything sounds perfect. But - the :03 second difference lingers, and my earlier question remains unanswered. So I will soon shoot out an mp3 of my 45 to my good friend Todd, who I'm sure also owns the Eric V/A CD that it's on, for his evaluation, and we will soon report back. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 15 May 2008 at 2:21am
| Todd, did you ever discover the :03 difference? |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 15 May 2008 at 5:53am
| No, Aaron. But I'll look into it as soon as I receive Jim's 45 dub. |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 15 May 2008 at 7:20am
| Sorry for the delay, guys. Todd - you'll have the dub this weekend. |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 30 May 2008 at 4:53pm
| A new wrinkle for this one, gentlemen. I have just picked up a second, unique promo 45 for this song. This one states (Edit), for both its mono/stereo sides, and both sides feature both a listed & actual time of (3:45). This version starts by chopping off the first :38 1/2 seconds of the stock 45, resulting in a fairly bad sounding, acappella "By the Rivers Of Babylon" intro. I was hoping that was the only difference here, but it isn't. This version removes the female lead singer's voice for a few lines, resulting in the "Gregorian Chanters" getting their own segment, mid-song. Also, later in this version, both the female lead and the male "chanters" are removed for a time, creating an instrumental segment not found on the stock 45. NO audio was added for this version, and all unique audio here was created by simply removing either the female lead's vocal, or a combo of both hers and the chanters' vocals. To me, aside from this new, "train-wreck" intro, these two unique "DJ 45 short-version-only" in-song changes give this song a much more interesting, less repetitive feel. |
Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 30 May 2008 at 6:33pm
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Jim, the http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh240/YahShure/BoneyM-RiversOfBabylonorigshortDJ.jpg - 3:45 edit was serviced because numerous stations asked for it. "Rivers Of Babylon" was a huge record at my station. It tested through the roof, had heavy sales and generated extremely heavy phones. Consequently, it was a big hour-opener. But the original promo 45 sounded like a real "train wreck" coming out of a shotgun jingle to start the hour. By comparison, the no-intro edit sounded great coming out of the news.
Was there ever an "RE-1" version somewhere between these two? |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 30 May 2008 at 7:14pm
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I've located a version of this song, running 3:45, on The Best Of that seems to partially match the description of Jim's 3:45 DJ edit.
But, it still has :20 of chanting at the beginning, so this is not the same. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 30 May 2008 at 7:17pm
| BTW, The Best Of appears to be an import CD. |
Posted By: bwolfe
Date Posted: 31 May 2008 at 3:22am
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I didn't recall that edit.
What a great find once again! "Babylon" was also a hit in the Johnstown, PA market. Their "Mary's Boy Child" is also a Christmas favorite in the market too. ------------- the way it was heard on the radio |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 31 May 2008 at 9:25am
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Yah Shure wrote:Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 31 May 2008 at 1:18pm
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Jim, thanks for the kind words, but please don't call me "sir." :) You deserve the credit for this find, because even though I've known about (and have had) the edit for 30 years, I hadn't remembered it for 30 years! My first station (WJON/St. Cloud, MN) was very well-taken care of by Sire on "Babylon." Of the five promo 45s I have, one is the first issue (4:16 listed) and the other four are the (3:45) edit. Sire also serviced us with the 12-inch disco-FM promo, pictured below, which we didn't air. We did play the 12-inch of the follow-up, "Rasputin," at night.
( http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh240/YahShure/BoneyM-RiversOfBabylon12-inchlongDJ.jpg - 12-inch promo for "Rivers Of Babylon," 7:30/4:06 - yes, 4:06) During the course of XM's "IT" last fall, I crossed paths with Capitol's Marc Nathan on the xmfan chat board. He'd done promotion for Sire at the time of "Babylon" and remembered quite clearly how big the record was in St. Cloud. Jim, I'll contribute in any way that I can, but I'm like everyone else here, learning about variations previously unknown (and sometimes forgotten.) When you'd bumped this thread up a month ago, I located my German Hansa label copy and picture sleeve and set them aside... too well, as it turns out. Three other Boney M Hansa 45s and a UK Atlantic "Babylon" later, I'm still looking. :) It took your "edit" discovery to prod me into combing through my own Sire stash. That's because my main focus for the last few years has been on compiling an anthology of the records from my college radio years. Transfering, restoring, scanning, researching, more scanning... it all seems like a bottomless pit at times, and will continue to take most of my time for the next few years. Bwolfe, you're spot-on. As big as "Babylon" had been on WJON, it was nothing compared to the reaction for "Mary's Boy Child"/"Oh, My Lord" a few months later. To say that the phones lit up like the proverbial Christmas tree would not be stretching it. We continued to play the group's singles through "Hooray! Hooray! It's A Holi-Holiday." The continued popularity of "Mary's Boy Child" over the years doesn't surprise me at all. (Isn't that a cool logo on the http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh240/YahShure/BoneyM-MarysBoyChildHansa.jpg - German Hansa 45 ?) |
Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 01 June 2008 at 11:50am
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Jim, I just listened to both sides of the "Rivers Of Babylon" 12-inch promo. Listed times are (7:30) and (4:06) and actual times are (7:24) and (4:17.) The short side is an edit of the longer.
The (3:45) edit RE-2 DJ 45 appears to be the same as the (4:17) 12-inch version, minus the intro, faded just a bit earlier and slowed down a little over one-half percent. The mix used for both the 12-inch promo and (3:45) edit DJ 45 has considerably more presence and a bit less bass than the (4:16)-listed first promo, which sounds very muddy in comparison. Even the cut on my Nightflight To Venus vinyl LP has much more high end than the original promo 45. I don't have a stock copy of the single; does your stock 45 also sound muddy compared to the (3:45) DJ edit? |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 05 June 2008 at 12:35pm
Jim and Yah Sure - Thanks for the tip on this particular promo. My copy, that matches Yah Sure's on the right, arrived today. This promo version definitely makes a catchy song even catchier! |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 05 June 2008 at 12:51pm
| Jim is correct in stating that the acapella intro has a choppy start. I did smooth mine out a bit. |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 13 January 2009 at 7:36pm
| As Jim pointed out earlier in this thread, the 45 run time of Boney M's "Rivers of Babylon" is 4:20. I compared it to the 45 version appearance on the Hard To Find 45s On CD Vol. 8: Seventies Pop Classics CD running 4:17 and have determined that the CD runs slightly faster than the 45, thus accounting for the :03 discrepency. So perhaps the database comment for the Hard to Find 45s disc be modified to read "45 version but slightly faster"? |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 13 January 2009 at 7:54pm
| Great song. |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 14 January 2009 at 7:06am
Strange to see regional hits even into the late 70s/early 80s. I was living in the Boston area at the time and don't ever recall hearing anything by Boney M. It wasn't until the mid-90s we started getting calls for "Mary's Boychild" at the N.H. CHR I worked for at the time. We were able to find a copy in a used record store to dub in the automation...it was completely unfamiliar to me. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 14 January 2009 at 10:42am
| That's ironic, because I was listening to Boston radio stations in the late '70s and remember hearing Boney M a lot -- but particularly their other charted single "Daddy Cool." That got quite a lot of airplay. "Rivers of Babylon" I don't think I heard as much but still I knew it. What stations were you listening to? Though I can't remember now exactly what stations I heard those songs on, the main stations I heard then were WBZ-FM, WVBF (both in Boston) and PRO-FM (in Providence RI). |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 14 March 2009 at 8:57am
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Pat:
Regarding Boney M's "Rivers of Babylon", the database currently lists the song's appearance on the Hard To Find 45s On CD Vol. 8: Seventies Pop Classics CD (Eric 11514) with the comment: "45 version but slightly slower". The comment should actually state: "45 version but slightly faster". |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 03 July 2012 at 11:40am
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i just re-listened to my commercial 45 versus the version
on the 'hard to find vol 8' cd and they're identical and run 4:17.....if that cd is faster, it's immaterial to my ears.....my commercial 45 run out groove info is 'SRE-1027-WAA-7948-5-JW2#1'....does anyone else have a different 45? ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 25 February 2013 at 1:25am
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Has the extended version of "Rivers of Babylon" (running approximately 7 1/2 minutes) come out on import CD? Boney M was so HUGE in Europe, especially UK and probably Germany, that it seems like it ought to be on some European CD, either a Boney M one, or a CD of 12" mixes.
Also, this 3:45 US DJ edit (that sounds like a different mix than the regular US 45, if I read the above posts correctly) - has this ever been on an import CD? |
Posted By: davidclark
Date Posted: 04 September 2014 at 12:35am
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after reading the above, seems we have still not solved the mystery of the 45
timing begin 4:17 (as per edtop40's 45) or 4:20 (as per Jim's). Two 45s out at the time would explain this discrepancy, perhaps, as per Todd, each differing in speed. What I don't read above, is how the LP version is different from the 45. Can anyone chime in here? ------------- dc1 |
Posted By: smvceo
Date Posted: 13 September 2014 at 7:40am
| "Rivers of Babylon" came in on DAT for use on the ERIC compact disc release. Since the pitch of the audio on the DAT could not vary from the pitch at which the analog reel was played when the DAT was recorded, and the DAT-to-WAV dub was done via a TOSLINK optical cable, no variation in pitch could have been introduced during that dubbing procedure. If any difference in pitch was introduced when Warner Bros. dubbed the song to DAT for us, it was caused by Warner's reel deck that was used to play the analog 45 master. During the analog era, a slight difference in pitch was considered acceptable, due to analog tape decks having AC motors. These were not as precise as quartz-locked direct drive turntables, and since slight pitch differences weren't detectable via the naked ear, the labels didn't think it was anything to worry about. A good example of this is the 12" single of Steve Miller's "Abracadabra," which is noticeably much slower than the 45. Still, Capitol found no fault with issuing it with the slower pitch. As a former mastering engineer, and the one who mastered "Rivers of Babylon" for the ERIC release, I have to say that the :03 difference in playing time is inconsequential, since the average listener would never notice it, and to make a big deal out of it is being anally retentive. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 13 September 2014 at 11:58am
If you've spent any amount of time on Pat's board, you've probably noticed that pretty much all of us are anally retentive :) Isn't that what makes this group so wonderful?!? ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: davidclark
Date Posted: 15 September 2014 at 6:50am
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extremely well put, Aaron. Besides, we do have the "3 second rule" too!
And, I have since determined what is different b/n the LP and 45. ------------- dc1 |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 15 September 2014 at 7:59am
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Thanks, David. I would also like to add that we are all "above average" listeners. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 15 September 2014 at 4:12pm
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As another of our wonderful anally retentive, above average listeners... with Tom's help and a pristine 45 dub I can confirm for David that the :03 difference is indeed pitch. All of the audio is there, so if you pitch our Eric master down you will get the 4:20 time.
David, I'll also add that the LP version, even though similar in time, has different ad-lib vocals at the end of the song. |
Posted By: davidclark
Date Posted: 16 September 2014 at 3:53am
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thanks, Mark. I also hear vocal differences from 2:05 to 2:21, so more than
just the ad-libs? Assuming I was sent the correct LP version.... ------------- dc1 |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 16 September 2014 at 8:00am
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To all the above posters:
I would really like to hear the USA vinyl album version of this hit. Could anyone who owns the American LP point me to a YouTube video or Spotify track or send me a file of it (or its equivalent)? Andy [etidjATverizon.net] |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 16 September 2014 at 3:47pm
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Thanks to 'Yah Shure' for letting me hear his clean dub of the album version!
Andy |
Posted By: davidclark
Date Posted: 17 September 2014 at 5:20am
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Andrew, can you please report on the difference b/n the LP and 45 version?
Are my comments valid? ------------- dc1 |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 17 September 2014 at 6:58pm
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To DavidClark:
Here's my report. First of all, the *basic mixes* are overall very similar. Of note: My 45 is somewhat slower than the album version & my 45 is somewhat duller/higher-generation than the album version. However, the ERIC dub of the single is yet a little bit faster than even the album version, much clearer/crisper, but its channels are reversed! Approx. the first 2:05 of my single & album are the same. From approx. 2:05 thru approx. 2:23 the difference is as follows: album has only producer Frank Farian singing; single has lead singer Liz Mitchell singing on top of Farian, beginning with "Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah". From approx. 2:23 thru approx. 3:13 both album & single are nearly identical. Then the piano solo on the album from approx. 3;13 thru approx. 3:29 is edited right out of the 45. From approx. 3:29 OF THE ALBUM thru the album's end of 4:22 both album & single are the same, except the single goes on LONGER for approx. 9 seconds. Confusing? No doubt. But after all of this analyzation I still love this record (I prefer the single version). Andy |
Posted By: davidclark
Date Posted: 17 September 2014 at 11:34pm
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Andrew, I am still confused.
I hear the piano in my version of the LP version from 3:13 to 3:29, it is just mixed down, and the 45 during that portion has male background singers doing "ahh ahh ahh ahh" repeatedly where the LP does not. You didn't mention the ad-libs being different towards the end, which I can detect as well as it has already been reported above. Also, if the 45 goes on for 9 seconds longer, it would run much longer than the 4:20 posted on this page. How long is your 45? Could you send me a dub of the version Yah Shure sent you? ------------- dc1 |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 18 September 2014 at 3:26pm
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To DavidClark:
I can see where I was misunderstood. I probably should have written "Then the PASSAGE on the album from approx. 3:13 thru approx. 3:29 (the piano solo) is EDITED RIGHT OUT of the 45". In other words: before you compare the album with the 45 you must edit out 3:13 thru 3:29 of the album version. Then the differences I've pointed out will be clearer! Andy |
Posted By: davidclark
Date Posted: 19 September 2014 at 2:22am
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ahh. ok Andrew I understand now. What's confusing about this track is that
they seemed to have edited both the 45 and the LP from a longer session (a 12" probably). What makes it more confusing is that they used different sections in some places for each, but they run the same length! ------------- dc1 |
Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 19 September 2014 at 1:34pm
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David, I agree about all the edits. Between the LP, the U.S. 45, and the many various edits on import CD's, the mix seems the same (not including later club remixes of course).
They seem to have just randomly chosen different sections to leave in each version. I hope to one day hear the entire unedited recording. I suspect it was on the 1978 Sire promo 12" single running 7:20. But that item goes for $$$ if you can find one. But for all we know, that could have been yet another edit of an even longer version. |
Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 21 September 2014 at 9:39am
Mark, the 7:20 promo 12-inch is a veritable parade of edits. You may be onto something as far as Frank Farian playing random shuffle with the various segments. There must've been a worldwide shortage of splicing tape by the time he was finished. :) |
Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 21 September 2014 at 2:42pm
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LOL. I now have a picture of Frank sitting surrounded by a
huge pile of tape scraps, and a stack of dozens of cans of edits to be sent to the four corners of the world. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 22 September 2014 at 9:25am
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FOUR corners?!? He had so many piles of tape scraps after all these edits, he managed to find EIGHT corners of the world to ship them to.
(And that includes four corners in a parallel universe known as the "Fringe" universe!) |
Posted By: Fetta
Date Posted: 22 September 2014 at 1:30pm
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I haven't read through this entire thread so not sure if it is needed or not, but I do have a needle drop of the 12" if anyone needs it or wants to hear it.
-Jeff |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 23 September 2014 at 9:12am
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Hi everyone,
I had a chance to listen (& study) the promo 12" of "Rivers of Babylon" and it appears while all of the pieces of the 45 are included, not all of the album version is there (specifically the passage where only Frank Farian is singing). While this is purely conjecture on my part, my guess is that Hansa Studios had an early Neve Computer Assisted Mixdown board which while analog allowed the engineer to do different mixes which were virtually identical except for specific passages which could be altered to taste (digitally controlled). This may be why all of the different contemporaneously released versions have virtually the same *basic* mix even though some passages are obviously different. But, who really knows? What we do know is Mr. Farian loved edits (ever listen to Milli Vanilli's "Girl You Know It's True" or "Baby Don't Forget My Number"?) P.S. the channels are reversed on the promo 12" compared to the single & album. Andy |
Posted By: Scanner
Date Posted: 23 September 2022 at 9:17am
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Although all the 45s I have seen online show a 4:16 length,
was there ever a 3:56 version released as a single or to radio as a promo? I have heard this version online (Spotify, YouTube) and it is the one I recall hearing back when on the radio. This version shortens the intro and edits out the male vocal section of the bridge. Unfortunately, I only heard this song on AT40. Since Kasem was notorious for editing songs, this may have aired trimmed on his show. But, his edits were usually more noticeable and substantial than just 20 seconds. |
Posted By: AdvprosD
Date Posted: 23 September 2022 at 8:07pm
Same for me with this song. I don't remember ever hearing it on the radio in these parts. I have noted that it seems to pop up on a lot of the youtube greatest hits collections that get put up from time to time. Not a bad song, but maybe easily forgettable? ------------- <Dave> Someone please tell I-Heart Radio that St. Louis is not known as The Loo! |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 24 September 2022 at 9:14am
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Does anyone have a dub of the short side of the promo 12"
PRO-A-732 I can listen to? How about the promo or commercial 45 labeled 'Remastered Version' 'RE-1' so I can compare with my earlier commercial 45? Thanks! Andy |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 24 September 2022 at 11:34am
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From info posted by Andy and others, it appears we have the following mixes and edits:
- 7:24 promo 12" - 3:45 promo 7" - 4:20 commercial 7" - 4:22 LP version Can someone summarize 1) if these are all the same mix but edited down from a longer take, 2) if the commercial 7" version is available on CD or digital in good quality (no noise reduction), and 3) if the promo 7" can be edited down from the LP version and/or the commercial 7". I have not done any A/B comparisons on these myself. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 25 September 2022 at 9:20am
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Summarization for Aaron:
Slight pitch difference, channel-reversal & EQ notwithstanding, the promo 12" can produce the commercial 7" (& short side promo 12") simply by editing approx. 3min,29.5sec thru 6min,35.3sec out of the promo 12". Note: what is edited out is mostly redundant as it is effectively a loop, but there is some unique audio such as a Liz Mitchell vocal and a piano solo with an off- measure edit within. The 3:45 promo 7" is pretty much the LP version with the first 38.4 sec. intro lopped off. Please note: I'm only comparing US releases; I am confident there are myriad other international edits & versions as this was a worldwide smash. One version I know of that has leaked onto some CDs is close to the US commercial single version but with the 2nd half of the intro edited out. If anyone wants to add to this overview, please do! Andy |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 25 September 2022 at 5:34pm
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The version on 'Hard To Find 45s On CD Vol. 8: Seventies
Pop Classics' is the commercial 7", albeit slightly faster and much crisper than my 45. I wonder how much different the RE-1 'Remastered Version' 7" sounds? I'm hoping someone out there has a copy for me to compare. Andy |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 26 September 2022 at 8:10am
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Earlier in the discussion, Jim (RIP) said the promo 45 did
not match the 4:19 45 version even if you took off the first 38 seconds. I listened to the 4:19 versions on Qobuz and they either fade much earlier than the promo 45 or are edited differently. I was hoping to create a nice, digital copy of the promo 45 but it sounds as though it can't be done from the 4:19 version. ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 26 September 2022 at 8:45am
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Hi John,
If you can find the LP version from 'Nightflight To Venus' and lop off the intro, you've essentially got the US promo 45 edit. Don't know where you can find it, but it is on Spotify, so there's probably a digital source somewhere out there. Keep us posted... Andy |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 26 September 2022 at 8:58am
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Just listened to the LP version on Qobuz and it fades to
early at the end. The end result would be about 5 seconds short if the only difference is the intro that's been removed. ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 26 September 2022 at 11:02am
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I also listened to the LP version on Spotify, and the fade out lasts until "by the rivers..." On the promo 45 dub I have, I can also hear "of Babylon" but nothing more. At most, the LP version on Spotify is about 1.5 seconds shorter on the fade. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 26 September 2022 at 11:39am
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I had the chance to line up the promo 12" and commercial 7" version in the multi-tracker, and while there are segments unique to the promo 12", most of the song matches up with the commercial 7" version, parts of which have been looped. Specifically, the section from 4:06 to 4:24 and 5:29 to 6:35 of the 12" are unique. These sections are not found in the LP version, either. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |