Wrong Edits on new Chicago Best Of CD
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Topic: Wrong Edits on new Chicago Best Of CD
Posted By: BillCahill
Subject: Wrong Edits on new Chicago Best Of CD
Date Posted: 04 October 2007 at 4:43am
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Instead of using the single mix of Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is they just chopped off the beginning to match the radio edit. But it's wrong, it has the talking which was mixed out of the 45.
Beginnings has two wrong edits to try to recreate the 45. DJ edit of Wishing You Were Here is on the collection and it's correct. I'm surprised they included these. I don't have the CD, I'm listening to it at www.lite98.com/cc-common/mfeatures/chicagoOD |
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Posted By: Bill Cahill
Date Posted: 04 October 2007 at 8:03am
| My comments on Beginnings assumes that there was not a stereo edit made in 1969 or 1971 which may have been different than the mono. I have never seen or heard one from that time period. There could have been one prepared but never released. My guess though is that this is a re-creation which is not an exact match. Maybe there are some comments in the CD booklet which I don't have yet. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 04 October 2007 at 9:35am
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Bill:
Is this a radio only release? There's not even a mention on http://www.chicagotheband.com - Chicago - The Band's website. |
Posted By: MPH711
Date Posted: 04 October 2007 at 9:52am
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I noticed that it has a 3:26 version of Question 67 & 68. You can buy the CD on Amazon. Read some of the reviews...it mentions single edits.
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Chicago-40th-Anniversary/dp/B000UJBY4W/ref=sr_1_5/103-7458530-0152610?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1191516347&sr=1-5 - http://www.amazon.com/Best-Chicago-40th-Anniversary/dp/B000U JBY4W/ref=sr_1_5/103-7458530-0152610?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=119 1516347&sr=1-5 |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 04 October 2007 at 10:48am
| Sounds like Questions may be the 1971 45 length. same for Beginnings. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 04 October 2007 at 11:31am
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Well, my curiosity got the best of me. Picked one up on eBay for 9.95 + shipping.
Hopefully too, Pat will get a copy of this CD for review. That way, we'll know for sure if it's proper 45 versions or unsuccessful recreations. |
Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 08 October 2007 at 8:48pm
Not only that, the DJ version is dry, and is mono.
The 45 edit is terrible, and it has a false ending. But, if one needs it, I have recreated it. I have also made my own, better "single" edit. ------------- |
BillCahill wrote:Posted By: BillCahill
Date Posted: 09 October 2007 at 4:17am
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The DJ 45 version of "Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is" also had a stereo side for radio so it wasn't just mono. That stereo DJ side was issued on LP, The original Chicago Greatest Hits LP, and the midline LP release "If You Leave Me Now". When Chicago's Greatest Hits made it to CD they changed it to the LP version with the piano intro cut off, but the "If You Leave Me Now" CD kept the stereo DJ version, although the tape it came from was not all that great.
The actual stock 45 is the same mono mix as the mono DJ version with the talking mixed out, but has a longer intro, and that longer stock 45 version has not been issued in stereo. I have the stereo DJ copy and the quality on that mix was great, (Unlike on the If You Leave Me Now CD) but as Hit Man notes, it didn't have as much reverb. Background vocals are center, not off to the side. This new Best Of Chicago CD would have been an excellent opportunity to release the stereo DJ mix in better quality than the "If You Leave Me Now" CD, but instead we get a chopped LP version with a mastering error on the intro. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 09 October 2007 at 7:05am
| Well, mine went back out the door this morning. Already sold it! :) |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 12 March 2012 at 8:57pm
I have strong suspicions that the "If You Leave Me Now" CD contains a vinyl dub of the DJ 45 version. Listening in headphones, I can definitely hear noise reduction, and there is low frequency rumbling on the ending reverb. I also detect some groove distortion on some of the horn passages. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 12 March 2012 at 11:34pm
That would be the DJ edit of the song.
This was noted on the "Very Best of Chicago" 2-CD set. ------------- |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 12 March 2012 at 11:59pm
Grant, are you saying that you have a copy of the 45 with the talking? Bill is saying that the CD has the talking, whereas the 45 does not. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 13 March 2012 at 5:26am
I'm not Grant, but I have a copy of the 2:53 promo edit of this, and it does have the talking (at least on the stereo side). There appear to have been 3 different promos of this song...a mono/stereo 2:53 version with the talking, a mono 3:17 b/w whatever was on the stock without the talking, and a mono 2:53/3:17. I have copies of the first 2, can't comment on the 3rd. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 13 March 2012 at 9:48am
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That's interesting, Hykker. There is info on this song in a couple different Chicago threads, and I seem to remember someone saying this had two different releases. The first chart run it didn't hit the top 40, and the second run it became a big hit.
Does the promo with talking perhaps come from the first chart run, or was it released that way in 1971, too? ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: Bill Cahill
Date Posted: 13 March 2012 at 8:46pm
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I'm not sure that "Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is" had an earlier run, Hykker is your DJ edit with talking on it "Columbia 4-45264" or is it an earlier record number?
I have two DJ promos and two stock copies. All are record numbr 4-45264. One DJ is 2:53 stereo/mono, the other is 3:17 mono 2:53 mono. None have talking. Here's the master numbers: "Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is" 3:17 (mono).. on all issues of the 3:17 mono version that I have including my stock copies are JZSP 154094. "Listen", the flip side of the stock copy is JZSP 154095. (I think there is a promo which has "Listen" as the B Side too) "Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is" 2:53 mono is JZSP 154096 on both promos I have with the 2:53 mono. However, "Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is" 2:53 stereo is JZSS-154367, which suggests it was prepared at a later date than the rest of these issues. Hykker do you have the master number of the stereo version you have with the talking? |
Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 13 March 2012 at 9:40pm
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I'm in the process of assembling a visual composite of the various "Does Anybody Really Know" vinyl releases similar to the one I put together for "All Right Now" and will post the results under the existing thread using the song title (well, most of it, anyway... that existing thread's title is shortened to "Does Anybody Really Know...") But I'll back up Bill's findings here: my two promo copies match his and likewise have no talking whatsoever (my 2:53/2:53 mono/stereo DJ 45 is a "special rush reservice" copy.)
The confusion over an alleged earlier chart run seems to have stemmed from this quote from yet another thread:
There was only one chart run in 1970. The stock 45 had the complete brass intro shared with at least the second 3:17 DJ 45 release, but did NOT have talking. There was no commercial issue of Columbia 45264 with the first part of the brass intro trimmed off (that version would first appear commercially on Hall Of Fame reissue 33197.) |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 13 March 2012 at 9:58pm
Sorry, I've read so many Chicago threads, I couldn't keep them all straight, especially since many of them discuss multiple songs. The post I was thinking of referred to "Questions 67 and 68." Now back to our discussion on "Does Anybody Really Know..." ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 13 March 2012 at 10:01pm
Er, maybe it was that post that confused me. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 14 March 2012 at 8:03am
Both of my copies are 4-45264, which corresponds to a late autumn 1970 release.
The master # on my 2:53 stereo as listed on the label is the same as yours, the # stamped into the run-out adds a 1B. Mono side is 154096 1B. Stereo side has the talking (not sure on the mono side...I'll check tonight). Correction on my 3:17 copy...it's a double A side with the 3:17 version in mono on both sides. I'm not aware of an earlier release of DAKWTIS either. I don't recall hearing anyone play the 2:53 version during the song's chart run (we didn't where I worked), don't remember when I came across my copy. Does anyone have the re-issue 45 of this? Does it have the talking? Mono or stereo? |
Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 14 March 2012 at 9:48am
Steve, the mono "Does Anybody Really Know..." Columbia Hall Of Fame 33197 reissue is identical to the no-talking 2:53 DJ 45 in every way. Its listed time is also 2:53. FWIW, "Free" on its flip side is also mono (the stock 45 was stereo.) |
Posted By: Bill Cahill
Date Posted: 14 March 2012 at 6:01pm
| My stereo side also has 1B stamped. I wonder if two different pressing plants put it out differently, because my stereo side does not have the talking. Hykker is the 2:53 stereo edit that you have feature album mix then, simply starting it later, with the talking off to one channel? |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 16 March 2012 at 5:51am
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As I noted in a private email to Bill & John, this has become a red face moment for yours truly. I could have sworn on a stack of Whitburns that my 2:53 copy had the talking, but I played it last night and there was none. I can only surmise that someone broke into my house and did a switcheroo substituting a visually identical copy that did not have the talking.
Sorry for any confusion I may have caused. As they say, memory is the second thing to go.... |
Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 16 March 2012 at 11:54am
My hearing seems to be several laps ahead of my memory in that race. :) |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 16 March 2012 at 11:34pm
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OK, I just want to make sure I have everything straight here regarding Chicago's "Does Everybody Really Know What Time It Is?":
==> Commercial 45 version is in mono, runs 3:17, and has no talking. ==> Long DJ 45 side running 3:17 is the same in every way as the commercial 45 version. ==> Short DJ 45 sides running 2:53 were issued in mono and stereo and neither have the talking. ==> LP version is in stereo, runs 4:33, and is the only version that has the talking. Do I have this all summarized correctly? |
Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 17 March 2012 at 9:44am
| Todd, yes, that's the short story. As soon as I have all the information gathered from other contributors, I'll be posting a detailed analysis under the song title's thread. |
Posted By: KentT
Date Posted: 19 March 2012 at 8:30am
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First issue of the 45 had the jazzy piano intro and talking. Second issue of the single had the jazzy piano intro chopped off and no talking. Second version was the bigger hit. First version was a fair hit and Columbia reissued the 45 with the new mix and edit and had a big hit. ------------- I turn up the good and turn down the bad! |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 19 March 2012 at 12:59pm
Are you referring to the promo or commercial issue, Kent? |
Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 19 March 2012 at 4:11pm
Kent, are you confusing the chart and release history of "Does Anybody Really Know..." with that of the 1969 and 1971 chart runs of "Questions 67 And 68"? When you say "version 1 was a fair seller, version 2 was a big hit" what chart data are you citing to back up this claim? There was only one chart run for "Does Anybody Really Know..." so even if there *had* been a "version 1" and a "version 2," how can you so specifically break down v.1 versus v.2 sales data for something that would not have been similarly accounted for in the charts? When you indicate that this "first version" was issued "on the old style label," are you referring to the all-red U.S. Columbia label used from the mid-'60s until 1970? My 3:17, no-talking stock copy happens to be on that same "old style label," too. No one else on the board has thus far reported to have found this "first version" on a 45, either promo or stock. Please provide some specifics, including the actual listed time on the label, matrix numbers or label scans or photos. |
Posted By: KentT
Date Posted: 19 March 2012 at 6:01pm
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First pressing had 3:20 playing time and all Red label. I suspect it was short lived. Has a 1A matrix. Has talking. Second pressing was 3:17 and had 1B matrix onward. No talking and most common version. My example got very cueburned and got replaced with the common pressing. Second pressing also on all Red label. I'll see if I can find another. ------------- I turn up the good and turn down the bad! |
Posted By: TomDiehl1
Date Posted: 20 March 2012 at 2:41am
The promotional copy of Columbia 4-45264 I just picked up at a record show on Sunday (I have at least two or three other promo copies in storage but have no idea what's on them without accessing them), is the 3:17/2:53 mono/mono, matrix numbers match what was listed earlier in this thread, the 3:17 is a 1A stamper (no talking) and the 2:53 is a 1B stamper (also no talking). Unimportant to the rest of this thread but I found it amusing that the 2:53 side has a bit of cueburn on it while the 3:17 side has none, since it seems most markets likely played the longer side. ------------- Live in stereo. |
Posted By: KentT
Date Posted: 20 March 2012 at 5:45am
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On the promos, I was looking at some on MusicStack and noticed this got Re-Serviced. Wonder if that is the key to this mystery? I'll dig through the station archives and see if I can find original and re-serviced. ------------- I turn up the good and turn down the bad! |
Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 20 March 2012 at 6:37am
No, it is not. |
Posted By: KentT
Date Posted: 20 March 2012 at 3:37pm
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Apparently, I was remembering things wrongly. The only issue with talking is the unedited LP version (the Hall Of Fame single used that). Both copies of the original single I came home with were 3:17 and no talking. CRS is devastating. But I now know. ------------- I turn up the good and turn down the bad! |
Posted By: Bill Cahill
Date Posted: 20 March 2012 at 4:43pm
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My 3:17 stock singles (1A) and promo (1B) clock out to nearly 3:20 with reverb.
Here's what I know about the Chicago stock and DJ 45s leading up to "Saturday in the Park" 1969: "Question 67 and 68"/"Listen": Radio station copies were a 3:07/4:45. I don't know if "Listen was ever issued on a DJ copy in 1969. Question 67 & 68 was a much hotter mono mix than the later 45, with vocals and percussion hotter. Different edit than the 1971 single, Lots of compression/limiting. B Side: "Listen", on the stock copy is a dedicated mono mix with lots of compression/limiting/EQ. 1969: "Beginnings", my DJ copy has Beginnings in mono on both sides listed at 2:47. While James William Guarcio stated that he did all the edits, I suspect he merely approved them, as this 45 has all the tell tale signs of the typical Columbia/Epic editing being done at the time. Artists kept supplying long songs, so Columbia/Epic basically cut them down to 3 minute commercials for the LPs. The 11 edits on Beginnings resembles the re-working of the DJ copy of "Are You Ready" by Pacific Gas and Electric, and the repeating hooks in the DJ copy of the Raiders "Just Seventeen", and "Long Dark Road" by the Hollies. And there was the restructuring of Santana's "No One To Depend On". I suspect these are all from the same editor. This editor had little regard for the way the artist created the recording, it was his job to make songs "hooky hits". (I'm assuming it's a him, in 1969 few women were editing tape) Sounds like a little compression and EQ added for brightness, but otherwise it sounds like they used a stereo source and simply summed it. Could have been remixed to mono, hard to tell. B Side was "Poem 58" with the intro cut off. I don't believe a stereo version of these two edits was issued, or prepared. 1970: Make Me Smile/Colour My World: Stock copies in stereo, and the DJ copy I have is Make Me Smile mono/stereo. Mono version sounds like it's simply summed with some EQ for AM radio, however it sounds like it was edited separately, as the last edit sounds slightly looser than the stereo side. 1970: 25 or 6 to 4/Where Do We Go From Here: I don't have the DJ copy but the stock copy was "back to mono" for whatever reason. Sounds EQed and compressed a bit. 1970: "Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is"/"Listen". Mono stock release. Since Chicago III wasn't ready yet Columbia went back to the Chicago Transit Authority LP and made a new mono mix without the talking and created a new stereo mix for radio, however I've only found this stereo mix to be the 2:53 version, I have yet to find a 3:17 stereo copy of this DJ single mix. "Listen" was on the B side but was not EQed as bright as the 1969 release and not as compressed. Might just be summed. 1971: "Free"/"Free Country". Stereo stock copies, DJ 45 is mono/stereo but the mono side sounds like the typical "add a little compression and brighten it with EQ" and that's it. Could just be a sum on the mono side, I don't hear any mix differences. 1971: "Lowdown"/"Lonliness is Just A Word" Stock copies sound like they are just the LP cuts on both tracks in stereo, the DJ copy is stereo/mono "Lowdown", with the mono side possibly a designated mono mix, Peter Cetera's "oh yeah" right before the guitar solo is much lower on the mono copy, it's more compressed (making the intro louder than the stereo copy), the drums seem a bit hotter, and it's EQed brighter. 1971: "Beginnings"/"Colour My World". What do you do with nothing else on Chicago III worth issuing and a four record "Live at Carnege Hall" with no single potentials? Go back to Chicago Transit Authority. Both sides are in mono on both the stock and DJ 45s, I suspect that Colour My World was summed to mono because Beginnings was in mono and there was no stereo version made, so this makes both sides "match" as a mono single. There was a promo with an "A" designation for both of these songs. So, Beginnings is the same 1969 release except there's what sounds like an overload on the bottom end right before the vocal comes in, it says 2:45 on the label instead of 2:47 but it's the same track. 1971:"Question 67 & 68"/"I'm A Man" "Beginings/Colour My World" worked and they were still dealing with Carnege Hall so let's edit two more! They opted to create a new edit of Question 67 and 68, possibly so the single could be in stereo, or they couldn't find the 1868 tape. In any event the single was stereo on both sides with some pretty sloppy edits. The mono DJ "Question 67 & 69/I'm A Man" DJ 45 were possibly just sums, but they certainly EQed and compressed them a bit for AM radio, plus the edits on "I'm A Man" are not as sloppy. (I'm a Man sounds especially good for AM radio with the EQ and compression on it) The first edit on "Question 67 and 68" is a little looser on the mono side, but less sloppy on the second edit. There was also a stereo/stereo "Question 67 and 68" which had one side "English Version" and the other side "Japanese Version". Obviously the Hall of Fame series used this as a source as many of those show "Question 67 and 68" (English Version), which is a totally unnecessary designation since the Japanese version was NOT on the other side of the Hall of Fame 45. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 20 March 2012 at 6:22pm
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Bill,
I commend you on your detailed look back to Chicago's recordings from 1969-1972. It amazing how many oldies stations I hear these days regionally that play the 'neither' edit of "Beginnings" from the GoldDiscs. I rarely hear the full version anymore. I've offered to send them dubs from near mint 45's to no avail. |
Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 20 March 2012 at 9:07pm
You seemed so certain before. "Has a 1A matrix." "My example got very cueburned and got replaced with the common pressing." Perhaps it was among those 15,000 LPs lost in the Great Radio Station Fire I remember reading about on another forum back in 2007.
Per earlier in this thread: The Hall Of Fame reissue is the mono, no-talking 2:53 DJ 45 edit. |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 20 March 2012 at 9:34pm
Ditto that. Thanks, Bill! |
Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 20 March 2012 at 9:39pm
| Bill: x3! Great stuff; appreciate the effort!! |
Posted By: KentT
Date Posted: 21 March 2012 at 5:21am
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Bill,
Thanks for the superb overview on Chicago 45 singles. How reliable was Columbia on listing accurate timing on reissue labels? Seeing scans of some Chicago Columbia Hall Of Fame singles, I suspect the timings are off. And your timings are dead on compared to the Chicago singles I own from the era. ------------- I turn up the good and turn down the bad! |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 21 March 2012 at 5:51am
I have a promo and a stock copy of this. Both are mono. The stock copy is on what was a very short-lived label design that was apparently used for only a couple months in the summer of 1970. I remember the promo copy we played during the song's chart run being a white-label version of this, but my promo is on the older style label that preceded it. |
Posted By: KentT
Date Posted: 21 March 2012 at 7:01am
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Interesting about the 1970-1973 frequent Columbia label design changes. They sure changed them often back then. And then kept the same 1973 design for many years hence. What we really need for CD users is a Chicago singles collection using correct single edits. Too many wrong ones used on compilations. ------------- I turn up the good and turn down the bad! |
Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 21 March 2012 at 12:45pm
Would that have been the all-red label with "COLUMBIA RECORDS" in white lettering, repeated around the label's perimeter? It was as if Columbia had decided it needed an updated look for the physical labels but wasn't happy with either that one, the red label with orange "COLUMBIA" used into 1972 or the 1972-early '73 gray label. My stock copy of "25 Or 6 To 4" was a http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh240/YahShure/Chicago-25Or6To4stock.jpg - Pitman pressing on the older all-red label. |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 22 March 2012 at 12:10pm
Yep. Looked like http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff73/hykker/25or6to4-stock.jpg - this . Interestingly, my http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff73/hykker/25or6to4-promo.jpg - promo copy was vinyl...I could count the number of vinyl Columbia singles I've seen on the fingers of one hand. The promo copy we had where I worked in 1970 was a white-label version of my stock copy (IIRC the lettering around the circumference was blue on the promo). Different parts of the country got different labels???
Of the various temporary labels, I liked the style on my copy of 25 Or 6 To 4 the best. While on the subject of Chicago promo singles, here's an odd item I have...an (apparent) re-issue of "Beginnings" with the http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff73/hykker/beginn-lv.jpg - album version on one side in stereo and the mono http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff73/hykker/beginn-sv.jpg - 45 version on the other. Judging by the catalog #, it appears to have been a promo-only release. The "black sun" on the label dates it from around '74-75. It also is vinyl. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 22 March 2012 at 12:37pm
Steve, I have that very same 'oddity' promo 45, having purchased it within the last year or so. Near mint, and obviously purchased to get the '45' version of "Beginnings." |
Posted By: Bill Cahill
Date Posted: 22 March 2012 at 8:33pm
| The oddity promo I believe was issued to radio in late 1975 to promote Chicago's Greatest Hits. I'm pretty sure 25 to 6 to 4 was one of the 45s included, but that had the full stereo version on one side and another Chicago song on the other. I think several 45s came in a box resembling a reel to reel tape box, With the Chicago Greatest Hits Album cover on the box, with all the cuts from the album represented as 45s (or at least several).I think they did this to make it easy for radio stations that played 45s to feature these songs as the album was a huge Christmas present item in 1975. They wanted to make sure that stations had fresh copies of the tracks. |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 23 March 2012 at 5:27am
I sort of suspected that myself. You'd think though that they'd note the song as being from the GH album, not the CTA album if it was a tie in with the GH. I forget exactly where/when I got this single, but I think it was sometime the 80s. |
Posted By: Steve Carras
Date Posted: 12 June 2015 at 9:11pm
The long version is the 6:28 length one!! ------------- You know you're really older when you think that younger singer Jesse McCartney's related in anyway to former Beatle Paul McCartney. |
Posted By: Bill Cahill
Date Posted: 16 June 2015 at 5:43am
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Yes I believe that "Beginnings" was part of that box of
singles that went to radio stations to promote Greatest Hits. Label times of 2:47 and 6:28. I believe they used the 1969 mastering of the single edit for this re-issue promo. What's different: For 1971's single release, they printed the label time as 2:45, and the intro features bottom end distortion around :04, not heard on the 1969 release. Not sure why that happened. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 16 June 2015 at 3:27pm
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Several years ago, I also purchased that white label,
black sun Chicago promo 45 for "Beginnings." It's labeled as single version with a listed time of 2:47 and is mono. The other side is listed as 6:28 and in stereo. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 16 June 2015 at 3:29pm
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My copy is also vinyl. It's labeled as being from the
Columbia LP, Chicago Transit Authority. |