Deon Estus - Heaven Help Me
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Topic: Deon Estus - Heaven Help Me
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Subject: Deon Estus - Heaven Help Me
Date Posted: 04 October 2007 at 6:56pm
This top 10 hit from George Michael's bass player is available in LP form on:
Keep 0:00.0-3:59.4 of the LP version. Edit on the "4" beat, as in 1-2-3-4. This falls right in the middle of the word "me". Keep 4:09.9-4:41.2 (end) of the LP version. The total run time of the 45 is about 4:30. ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |
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Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 12 November 2007 at 12:20am
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My promo CD single for this (CDP 44) has the following:
1-Heaven Help Me (listed 4:05; actual 4:27) 2-Heaven Help Me (LP Version) (listed 4:40; actual 4:37) |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 04 October 2008 at 11:50am
| Pat has incorporated Jim's promo CD single info into the database. I also wanted to pass along that the actual commercial 45 run time of Deon Estus with George Michael's "Heaven Help Me" is 4:26. (Timing info compliments of abagon. The printed record label time is 4:25.) |
Posted By: Scanner
Date Posted: 09 April 2020 at 2:02pm
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Should he or shouldn't he? Artist credit is always so
confusing and this is yet another example. The front sleeves for this single show this is by Deon Estus With Additional Vocals by George Michael. The back sleeves relegate Michael to background vocals along with Estus. And the physical singles (record, cassingle, promo CD) only list Estus as the artist. So, should this song be credited to just Estus or to both Estus and Michael? (Why do record companies make this so frustrating?!?) |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 09 April 2020 at 7:12pm
I put it down as Don Estus With George Michael as indicated in the 45 and promo CD release, just leaving out "additional vocals by" to simplify since it is impled... promo CD https://www.discogs.com/Deon-Estus-With-George-Michael-Heaven-Help-Me/release/4274046 - https://www.discogs.com/Deon-Estus-With-George-Michael-Heave n-Help-Me/release/4274046 45 https://www.discogs.com/Deon-Estus-With-George-Michael-Heaven-Help-Me/release/5042626 - https://www.discogs.com/Deon-Estus-With-George-Michael-Heave n-Help-Me/release/5042626 ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |
Scanner wrote:Posted By: Scanner
Date Posted: 10 April 2020 at 7:50am
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Funny...that's exactly where I sourced my confusion!
The sleeve credits Michael, but the actual 45 and CD don't. Despite Michael's obvious contribution, I lean toward not crediting him since the record itself doesn't. At least Michael got some credit unlike, say, Kenny Rogers ("What Are We Doin' In Love"), Stevie Nicks ("Whenever I Call You Friend"), Olivia Newton-John ("Fly Away") and so, so many others. |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 23 August 2020 at 1:54pm
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Just revisiting this song, 13 years later.
The 45 is still not available on CD. Fortunately, it's an easy edit that deletes 16 beats, from a snare hit in the word "me" at 3:59, to another snare hit in the word "me" at 4:09 or 4:10. You'll know if you got the edit points right if the word "your" immediately after the edit. ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 23 August 2020 at 2:20pm
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To clarify, it is available on the promo CD single, which is quite rare. I don't know of any other CD source for it, though. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 23 August 2020 at 3:37pm
Not domestically. I bought this a long time ago. It is available on a comp out of Germany called So80s. https://www.discogs.com/Blank-Jones-So80s-Soeighties-6/release/13739056 - https://www.discogs.com/Blank-Jones-So80s-Soeighties-6/relea se/13739056 ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |
Posted By: BSharp
Date Posted: 02 September 2020 at 11:04am
That's not the 45 version... it's a bad edit of the LP version. For some reason this CD has the intro notes and first 4 bars (11 seconds) of the song cut off... it starts with the muted trumpet and runs 4:28. It's too bad it's not even the correct album version. The fidelity on this compilation is really good. |
Posted By: EternalStatic
Date Posted: 02 September 2020 at 1:29pm
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Bsharp-
The song appears twice on the SoEightles6 compilation. Once as the last song in an album-length segued “mix”, and again on the “Unmixed” disc where it runs the full-length of the album version. I have used that version to recreate the single edit before. Are you sure you weren’t listening to the segued/mixed version, as that would explain why the first measures are missing? -E |
Posted By: BSharp
Date Posted: 02 September 2020 at 5:08pm
That TOTALLY explains it... I had no idea about the "unmixed" disc! I'm going to track it down now; thank you! (Unrelated but cool: the "Heaven Help Me" file that I have now came from Deon Estus himself... he had shared it via his Twitter account some time ago). |