Foreigner-"I Don’t Want To Live..."
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Topic: Foreigner-"I Don’t Want To Live..."
Posted By: jimct
Subject: Foreigner-"I Don’t Want To Live..."
Date Posted: 09 October 2007 at 1:19pm
| My commercial 45 has a listed time of (3:50), but an actual time of (3:54). |
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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 08 June 2009 at 11:20pm
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While trying to determine which CD in my collection contains the best sounding 45 version of Foreigner's "I Don't Want to Live Without You", I discovered something interesting... On the Rock Dreams (Time-Life R105-40) compilation, I notice the song's intro leads off with an airy "whoosh-like" sound effect underneath the synthesizer fade-in. However, on the 1985 - Only Love - 1989 (JCI 3186) and Complete Greatest Hits (Atlantic/Rhino 78266) discs, I don't hear the sound effect during the intro.
Can someone who has an "I Don't Want to Live Without You" commercial 45 report if the "whoosh-like" sound effect is present when the song first fades in? |
Posted By: abagon
Date Posted: 10 June 2009 at 6:07am
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Todd:
I will send you an MP3 file of the commercial 45 soon. --abagon |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 05 August 2010 at 12:36pm
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i will check when i get home next time... ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: NightAire
Date Posted: 22 January 2013 at 12:10am
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This version claims the 7" is a remix... anybody agree?
http://www.discogs.com/Foreigner-I-Dont-Want-To-Live-Without-You-Remix/release/2462503 - Discogs That might explain the "whoosh / no whoosh" issue... ------------- Gene Savage http://www.BlackLightRadio.com - http://www.BlackLightRadio.com http://www.facebook.com/TulsaSavage - http://www.facebook.com/TulsaSavage Tulsa, Oklahoma USA |
Posted By: abagon
Date Posted: 22 January 2013 at 10:46am
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I agree.
The 45 has "remix" description on the record labe. The 45's echo effect is stronger than the LP version. Especially, the backing chorus is outstanding on the 45. For example, at 3:30 on the 45 and at 4:04 on the LP. --abagon |
Posted By: musicmanatl
Date Posted: 22 January 2013 at 8:42pm
| Does anyone know which CDs have the 45 remix and which ones have the regular mix shortened to 45 length? In the database, all of the shorter versions are noted as 45 versions. From these posts, I'm guessing that Rock Dreams has the true 45 version, while the 1985-Only Love-1989 and Complete Greatest Hits have the unmixed 45 versions? |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 23 January 2013 at 8:07pm
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I compared the LP and 45 versions on a bunch of different discs, and I really can't hear any mix differences between the two. There are really drastic EQ difference among some CDs, but I don't hear any other differences.
I have the LP version on:
Using the timings from Very Best Of And Beyond, remove the 16 beats from 2:04.9 to 2:14.5 and the 32 beats from 3:09.1 to 3:28.3, and put a 24-beat fade from 3:53 to 4:06. The 45 version on Rock Dreams is EQ'd a little bright, so that you can very plainly hear the edit at 1:53.7 (you'll hear the remnants of a crash cymbal disappear at the edit - it's not as obvious on the other discs due to the different EQ), and you probably won't hear the edit at 2:48.3. I have the 45 version on:
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Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 08 February 2013 at 10:53am
That's precisely why I would call the 45-rpm disc a remix. I haven't heard this song in awhile, but if my memory serves me correctly on the LP version, there is a "click" sound, followed by Lou Gramm saying "four" in to a echoey sounding mic. It's only about five to ten seconds in, but it cannot be removed from the LP. Also, does not the LP version have a brighter midrange, while the 45-rpm has an attenuated upper midrange? ------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Richmond Hill, Ontario) |
crapfromthepast wrote:Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 08 February 2013 at 3:59pm
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The mix sounds the same to me between the LP and 45 versions (not hearing any "whoosh" on the intro to either one). Jody is correct, though, that there is something overdubbed on the intro of the LP version, which sounds like a mistake to me. It's almost as if the recording engineer was hitting the talkback button for a second and mumbling into it. The EQ is also different between the two versions, but nothing else is really "remixed" to my ears. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |