Shirelles "Mama Said" Question
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Topic: Shirelles "Mama Said" Question
Posted By: BillCahill
Subject: Shirelles "Mama Said" Question
Date Posted: 14 October 2007 at 8:09am
I got a gift card from I Tunes so I figured, what the heck, I'd download the "Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow" budget album from Gusto. A compliation of the Shirelles hits. I figure since they own the masters and the samples I heard were original versions, it might be fun just to have it.
On this collection, Mama Said is really mono with instruments added to make it sound stereo, unless this is some alternate take.
There were several artists who had this done to their masters in the 60's, the label took the mono master and add instruments to it. Because they either couldn't find or locate the mult track, or didn't care.
Does anybody know when this was done, and for what original project?
My vinyl stereo Best Of Shirelles on Scepter circa the 70's has the song in typical stereo with no added instruments.
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Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 14 October 2007 at 8:55am
It says on the cover art that it's the original Scepter masters, but I wonder if it's either alternate takes on the
Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow compilation , or, the versions we've come to know are alternate takes.
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Posted By: BillCahill
Date Posted: 15 October 2007 at 5:29am
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I don't trust anything that Gusto says, so I assume they just pulled a master without checking. I would have thought that they'd just pirate what Rhino or Varese has done with their stuff. But no, they used this odd, instruments added version.
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Posted By: TomDiehl1
Date Posted: 15 October 2007 at 11:51am
I heard a preview of the song, it's definitely no demo or alternate take, but those strings added to a mono version sound REALLY weird.......
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Live in stereo.
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Posted By: BillCahill
Date Posted: 15 October 2007 at 4:52pm
Could this be from the LP "The Shirelles sing to Trumphets and Strings" (1961)? That LP has "Mama Said" on it.
So they may have needed to add the strings to make it fit the LP concept.
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Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 20 April 2016 at 11:19pm
My commercial 45, confirmed as Scepter 1217 (with handwritten deadwax
info of "45-S1217A") has both a listed and actual time of (2:10).
I only post this info because the more than 40 current db CDs that include
the original recording of this song range in actual time from (2:04) to (2:10),
with only a handful of them running either (2:09) or (2:10). There are many
that run just (2:04) or (2:05), so if you're a stickler for correct 45 length, go
with the longest CD versions you own.
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Posted By: ddipas
Date Posted: 23 March 2023 at 8:24pm
I recently ripped the CD of the soundtrack of "One Fine
Day" (1996). "Mama Said" by the Shirelles is track 4, and
it's in stereo. But there is a complete dropout for about
half a second at about 0:02. It ripped fine and CUERipper
indicated no errors at all. Could someone please check
their copy to compare?
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