Flaming Ember -I’m Not My Brothers Keeper
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Topic: Flaming Ember -I’m Not My Brothers Keeper
Posted By: davidclark
Subject: Flaming Ember -I’m Not My Brothers Keeper
Date Posted: 02 November 2007 at 7:31am
What's the issue with the version on "Soul Hits Of The 70's Volume 3"? Is it an "improper edit of the LP version..."? Or another problem? I do not have the 45 with which to compare. thanks.
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dc1
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Posted By: Robert
Date Posted: 02 November 2007 at 7:32pm
David,
I mentioned this in an earlier thread, but there's a completely different lyric line :41 into the song, ("I'll Stand Beside You & You'll Feel My Respect...") It's a different version than either the Rhino's 45 version or the HDH LP versions. Actual time on the 45 is 2:54. I'm wondering if it might be on an import somewhere, but I haven't seen it on any domestic CD. Maybe someone can help us.
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Posted By: Indy500
Date Posted: 19 August 2012 at 12:01pm
The odd version, not the 45 version, is also on the import CD's Hot Wax Greatest Hits (Edsel) and Invictus Chartbusters (Castle). I hadn't noticed that before.
Another 45 version MIA
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Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 20 August 2012 at 5:00am
Can the 45 be extracted from the LP?
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Doug
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All of the good signatures have been taken.
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Posted By: Indy500
Date Posted: 20 August 2012 at 5:38pm
Here is the vinyl 45, I don't have the long or lp version to compare with, just the "not 45 or lp" version that's on every cd.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgqpxRMbtAE
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Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 07 February 2013 at 5:18pm
does the full length cd version have the missing lyrics
somewhere in the song?
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edtop40
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Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 07 February 2013 at 11:39pm
Short answer Ed: No. Those lyrics only occur on the mono
45.
I compared all 3 versions:
1) Ed's mono 45
2) the stereo edit on Rhino CD
3) The stereo LP version
You cannot edit the LP version to get the 45 version.
The lyrics in 1st verse between :41 - :51, the first 2
lines, never occur in the LP version.
As for all the rest of it, most of the vocals are in fact
the same ...
so the 3-minute edit on CD is "mostly" the 45 version...
i'd say about 3/4 of it is the same as the 45.
The only other unique parts are the last choruses. The
45 has an edit in the last chorus that removes the 2nd
repeat. The LP version doesn't have that edit, so as a
result fades too soon if you try to re-create the edit -
so you can't make the 45 ending from the LP.
So, it comes down to this: the "neither" version on Cd is
mostly the same take as the 45, except for a total of 40
seconds.
10 secs in the first verse and 30 secs in the end chorus
are unique to the 45.
I also suspect that both the LP and the mono 45 were
edited down from a much longer take that we have never
heard. Come time to edit the 45, they decided to use
different parts of it, or parts of another take.
MM
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Posted By: KentT
Date Posted: 19 February 2013 at 7:08pm
The mono 45 is unique. No CD has it. I hunted down a vinyl pressing of this 45 because of that.
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I turn up the good and turn down the bad!
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Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 19 February 2013 at 7:18pm
mark made a re-creation from various sources and it sounds
superb!!!
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edtop40
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Posted By: Indy500
Date Posted: 21 February 2013 at 8:50am
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All digital sources or some needledrops?
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