Exile-"Kiss You All Over"
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Topic: Exile-"Kiss You All Over"
Posted By: jimct
Subject: Exile-"Kiss You All Over"
Date Posted: 14 November 2007 at 1:18pm
Both of my promo 45 copies are the listed (and actual) (3:20) mono side, and the listed (3:30), actual (3:26) stereo side versions. Although I don't own the listed (4:54) version on a promo 45, we played that version a lot in 1978, so I am certain that it also does exist. My commercial 45 has a listed time of (3:30), but an actual time of (3:27). There is different deadwax info between my stock 45 and the stereo side of my promo 45, which is how there can correctly be the :01 time difference between the two (3:27 vs 3:26).
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Posted By: torcan
Date Posted: 14 November 2007 at 7:17pm
Just FYI, the full 4:54 version was released on a 45 later on to promote "The Best of Exile" LP. It's the B-side to "Stay With Me", on MCA/Curb 52551. Not sure if the longer version was ever on vinyl in '78 though.
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Posted By: bdpop
Date Posted: 15 November 2007 at 6:45am
The full version was released on a promo single in 1978 with the short version on the other side.
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 2:03am
I'm not sure if this was reported elsewhere on the board, but the mono promo 45 has added reverb on the vocals when compared with the stereo version. This is mainly noticeable on the first verse.
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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 6:07am
It's interesting to see mono promo 45s were still being released in 1978.
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Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 8:02am
Todd Ireland wrote:
It's interesting to see mono promo 45s were still being released in 1978. |
Actually, most promo 45s were still mono/stereo in 1978. By the early 80s most had transitioned to stereo/stereo promos, but there were still mono/stereo 45s around even well into '82.
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Posted By: MCT1
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 9:28am
Hykker wrote:
By the early 80s most had transitioned to stereo/stereo promos, but there were still mono/stereo 45s around even well into '82. |
The WEA/Warner Music family was among the last holdouts, if not the last. I think all of their promo singles were still mono/stereo until late 1982.
IINM, I have a promo 45 of "The One Thing" by INXS (which was released in late '82, but didn't hit the Top 40 until early '83) which is mono/stereo. It is also on a promo version of the old "trumpet" Atco label, which they had apparently continued to use for promos even after switching to the gray label for commercial releases in the late '70s (as with Atlantic promo 45s from that era, it does not preserve the coloration of the commercial version of the label, but is white on the mono side, light blue on the stereo side). It is very strange to see an INXS 45 in mono and on that style of label...
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Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 24 May 2008 at 12:13am
Were the mono cuts just for AM Top 40 in mind?
------------- Cheers,
Jody Thornton
(Richmond Hill, Ontario)
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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 24 May 2008 at 5:52am
Jody:
My understanding is that by 1978, Top 40 commercial singles were almost exclusively issued in stereo and a growing majority of Top 40 listeners were switching to hearing their favorite new songs on FM radio. That said, I can only conclude that the mono side of promo 45s were tailored to the remaining AM Top 40 radio holdouts. Of course, I was only about five-years-old then, so I invite anyone with a better recollection to set the record straight if necessary. :-)
Welcome to the message board, Jody!
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Posted By: Gary Mack
Date Posted: 24 May 2008 at 6:37am
Through most of the 70s, the radio stations with the most influence on Billboard charts and sales of 45s were the AM Top 40s such as WABC/New York, WLS/Chicago, KHJ/Los Angeles and many, many others. It was in the record companies' best interest to provide stations with the mono mix and/or length that was most likely to get played and would sound best. It's a shame that music listeners since then have rarely, if ever, heard the terrific mono mixes of such great hits as Born to Be Wild, China Grove, and many more.
GM
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Posted By: KentT
Date Posted: 26 May 2008 at 7:43am
Hi,
Mono DJ promos began to fade out around 1980. AM Top 40 formats were beginning to fade into history then. AM Radio had special issues on it's music content (music had to collapse well to mono to sound good on AM Radio. Some mixes had to be re-done to sound OK on AM)
------------- I turn up the good and turn down the bad!
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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 26 May 2008 at 9:47am
Thanks for the additional history notes, Gary and KentT. And, KentT, welcome to the board!
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Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 26 May 2008 at 12:50pm
Wow! I just heard the original 1973 45 version of Aerosmith's "Dream On" on the WLS Rewind. I haven't heard that on an AM radio station since college.
Gary, I have two unplayed promo 45s of "China Grove," and since I'd never heard the mono side before, I gave 'em both a spin. Both copies had a swath of crackles in the right channel that played all the way through the song. These are normally-dependable Columbia Santa Maria pressings, so I was surprised and disappointed. But I certainly echo your comments about those lost mono mixes.
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Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 26 May 2008 at 5:28pm
Listening to Landecker now, they just played the 45 version of "Roundabout."
I hate to say it, been a Landecker fan since the 70's, but 'Records' is sounding all of 61 years old.
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Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 26 May 2008 at 5:35pm
eriejwg wrote:
Listening to Landecker now, they just played the 45 version of "Roundabout."
I hate to say it, been a Landecker fan since the 70's, but 'Records' is sounding all of 61 years old. |
Which is still better than many DJs sound at 35.
Full disclosure--have always loved Landecker, and I've had the pleasure of talking with him a number of times over the years (last saw him in November).
------------- Doug
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All of the good signatures have been taken.
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